Really good points. The wire is likely the cheapest part and some redundancy, especially in a shop or kitchen could easily pay for itself down the road.
Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?
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For that reason, I would run 12/3. He may want a 240V 20A now but he (or the next owner) could easily reconfigure for two 120V 20A circuits in the future. Pulling copper is the most annoying and time consuming part of most electrical jobs.
Saw motor is fifteen amp on one ten volt / eight amp on two twenty so the label says . The space it’s sitting in is a former family room , gas fireplace and French doors to the outside lol . When I’m done woodworking someday it will go back to a family room so this circuit will be surface mounted so it can come out someday .
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Well that's different than what you said before. @oioioi is far more qualified to comment but with your new info, the load is far easier to deal with.
Sounds like @crankcall wants to run a dedicated circuit for this machine.
Might as well run a 12/2 or 12/3 for future proofing.
Either way the breaker needs to be changed from the existing 30A. Might as well go with the 20A. Again give him the ability to use other machines that may require the higher amperage.
If using an existing circuit then sure use the 14/2 and 15A that may already be in the wall.
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This is a one machine circuit for just the table saw motor , fished through a couple finished ceilings and a surface conduit down the wall . It will likely be removed when the room goes back to being a family room . I’m the only guy on this street with a wood shop in the house , next owner will want it returned to a TV lounge I’m assuming.
I could maybe repurpose an existing circuit but this house was wired by a chimp on coke. I’d like the saw to not dim the lights like the previous one ten volt motor did .
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I could maybe repurpose an existing circuit but this house was wired by a chimp on coke. I’d like the saw to not dim the lights like the previous one ten volt motor did .
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If you are running a new wire you can decide 120v or 240v as the motor does both. As it is temp I may lean 120v 12/2 on a 20amp breaker. That extra 120v plug may come in handy, plus you only use one spot in the panel. 20 amp to cover 15amp load (80% blah, blah...), and having the motor trip the breaker mid cut would suck (like using an existing shifty 15a 120v...), of course the max current draw reached will depend on what you are cutting--thin pine who cares...
BUT I might lean 240v IF you think other 240v equipment may end up in the future mix. I would still stick to 20 amp...
BTW surface wire "needs" protection below 5 ft (1.5m) if this is going to a plug place the temp receptacle at that height and skip conduit...
I’ll put a wire chase shield over it once it’s in , I like wires near the floor , I’m on the downside of collecting equipment, old shop was all twotwenty volt stuff , and the dual voltage stuff I kept is now one ten. I’m going keep this table saw at two twenty , I need to go by some wire anyway so it will now be twelve g . Saws starving for power is a once a year problem , but when it’s a problem it really sucks .
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It will reduce the number of "F" words when the perfect cut on the expensive board doesn't leave a stall groove.
Wife reminded me we have guests coming this weekend so I’ve been fixing drywall and sanding at lunch.
Apparently I need to paint some spots also. Let’s just hope I don’t find the paint in good condition…or at all…
Apparently I need to paint some spots also. Let’s just hope I don’t find the paint in good condition…or at all…
Wife decided she really wanted our cherry kitchen sprayed off white . I wanted zero involvement, she found a painter that specializes in this . His process all doors and drawer front come off and go to his shop . Cabinets are sanded and sprayed in situ. One week, start Monday doors back on Friday . Ok , it’s week two , long weekend , no kitchen . Curtain wall has been up two weeks , doors are done but “ drying for a better finish” , maybe they go back in Monday or Tuesday . Few short comings , tape took paint off walls and ceiling so that needs touchup , sprayed boxes need some touchups . So far a really crap experience for seven thousand . In three years we will rip this kitchen out .
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Isn't it wonderful how something we thought was fantastic a decade or two ago is now so ugly. We replace solid rare hardwood with painted sawdust and glue.
I bought a SOLID walnut table from Restore for $100 and used half of it to make a sofa table. Lighting throws the colour off. It'll probably get chalk paint. Brown is out or is it making a comeback?
Sadly when you go to a place like the ReStore , what they call brown furniture , my grandmas stuff has little value . My uncle’s work table in the farm shed was once somebody’s walnut dining table and the four large china cabinets he uses as tool boxes cost him about fifty bucks each . Unless someone wants to repurpose things , they are out of vogue . My kids laugh at my furnishings, half way between a hunting lodge an Casa Loma . They will move it from the house to a twenty yard bin .
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My mom has some old solid wood (oak?) furniture that she brought from Poland when we moved over.
Wife is trying to find space for it in the house as it’s gorgeous solid wood that’s been in our family for close to 40 years.
Would love to bring it here but space is unfortunately an issue.
Wife is trying to find space for it in the house as it’s gorgeous solid wood that’s been in our family for close to 40 years.
Would love to bring it here but space is unfortunately an issue.
In-laws have way too much furniture. They have kept all of that old family furniture as people have died. They now have dining room sets in the dining room at home, dining room at the cottage, basement at home and basement at the cottage. We got their cherry set as they didn't have room for a fifth dining room set (lucky for us). When they downsize, all four of their current sets will be disposed of (hopefully they can find someone that likes it, their kids don't want any of it).
My wife was adamant about not taking it…but with older age I think she likes the style a lot.
If we ever get a bigger house, or pull the trigger on an extension / higher floor in our place we’ll have the space.
Part of the trestle base was made into a valet so some of my clothes don't sleep on the floor as much.
I was talking to a lady running an antique shop and when they buy a contents sale from an estate the China cabinets go straight to the dump. They don't pay for the floor space. They don't make great toolboxes either, IMO.
Brown furniture saved us a ton of money when we bought our present home. An elderly guy inherited it from his aunt or sister along with the furniture. Then he brought in his stuff. When he went to sell the place looked like a Sally Ann warehouse and turned people off. We saw through it and, hands trembling, committed ourselves to a $108,000 purchase, 40+ years ago. Decent suburban Toronto hood.
