Careful if you enjoy a brew while mowing your lawn (on a riding lawnmower)...

Xhumeka

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The term “motor vehicle” has also been amended in the Act to include all types of motor vehicles. This means if an OPP officer sees an individual drinking while operating a riding lawnmower, a tractor, a snowmobile, or even just sleeping in a running car, they can ask the individual to perform a sobriety check.
 
It's mainly semantics/housekeeping. The supreme court already upheld that position even though the wording of the existing laws was poor.

 
Snowmobiles? They've been on that list for decades. The OPP were setting up RIDE checks at trailheads up north in the 80s.
 
Snowmobiles? They've been on that list for decades.
I think the definition that changed was "driver" not "motor vehicle". The path the lawyer used was the definition of driver was limited to "someone who drives or has care or control of a vehicle on a highway". Not on a highway, you're not a driver and therefore letter of the law is no authority to do a sobriety test.
 
No more Jack ass clips on TikTok of folks jumping their atv over a bonfire of skids? Those always start with the phrase, “ Hold my beer!”


I understand why they took things as far as they did but, now I’m worried to wave at LE while operating my riding mower with an Ultra in my hand. 🤷‍♂️
 
Sleeping in a car while drunk was always a potential DUI offence. My buddy got busted for that in the early 2000s and spent thousands going through the court system (and he won), but it was a very painful and expensive experience.

Doesn't seem like a major change over previous iterations.
 
Next will be you be charged with DUI while having a beer while working on your car in your driveway. wtf.....
It's far worse than that. If you drive home sober and then get hammered, if cops show up within two hours of you driving, they can sobriety test you and charge you with DUI. It has been that way for a few years. Helps to mitigate the Michael Bryant defence where you kill somebody and then start drinking to make it harder to determine BAC at the time of the incident.
 
Next will be you be charged with DUI while having a beer while working on your car in your driveway. wtf.....
Well that's a dangerous precedent....why not just charge me for a DUI after I get home and pop a beer open in the house...
 
It's far worse than that. If you drive home sober and then get hammered, if cops show up within two hours of you driving, they can sobriety test you and charge you with DUI. It has been that way for a few years. Helps to mitigate the Michael Bryant defence where you kill somebody and then start drinking to make it harder to determine BAC at the time of the incident.
Holy $hit! I was just typing 'well I'm quite sure according to the law they can charge you after you get home and start drinking'...

Then I erased it thinking 'no way we got stupid laws like that. @GreyGhost is gonna mock me to hell and back for this statement'

So I deleted it...and wrote what I did in post #9.
 
Holy $hit! I was just typing 'well I'm quite sure according to the law they can charge you after you get home and start drinking'...

Then I erased it thinking 'no way we got stupid laws like that. @GreyGhost is gonna mock me to hell and back for this statement'

So I deleted it...and wrote what I did in post #9.

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When I was doing secure tows for the police. Suicide a tempt Sitting in the running car in the garage drinking. They charge the person with dui. Care and control even though not driving. Officer on seen didn’t want it but Sargent wanted it.
 
It's mainly semantics/housekeeping. The supreme court already upheld that position even though the wording of the existing laws was poor.


The Supreme Court allowed it in that case.. but the ruling also clearly states that the HTA is not applicable to private property.
In that case they followed the guy from the highway onto private property... observing him the entire time... not the same as showing up to someone's house after the fact.. without observing them the entire time... not witnessing the person actually driving.. and/or losing sight of them for period of time is another issue... I don't know that has been tested in a court yet.

Don't answer the door.
 
Next will be you be charged with DUI while having a beer while working on your car in your driveway. wtf.....
Step onto city property at the bottom of your driveway and you could get charged. I know a guy many years ago that had this happen.
 
Step onto city property at the bottom of your driveway and you could get charged. I know a guy many years ago that had this happen.
I go on evening walks in the summer with a beer in my hand on our street…

Most times it’s in a thermos…but sometimes just an open can/bottle.
 
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