Are there manufacturer offers in late fall? Getting my first bike

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Hey everyone, going to get my first bike. Looking at new (I know, I know), and there isn't used on the brand new 2020 model I am looking at. Noob here so please bear with me.

Currently Yamaha Canada is offering $300-500 as their promo that ends Aug 31. Due to quarantine reasons I can't get out of the house until first week of Sept (Came back from the states)

Are there similar incentives from manufacturers in September and beyond? I understand no one has a crystal ball but has anyone seen it before in previous years? Its the tail end of the riding season and I am aware that you can get way more discount once snow hits but I really want to ride this year.

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I always recommend a used bike for the first one. It is almost a certainty that the first bike falls over (normally when almost stopped). Between the depreciation on a new vehicle and the battle scars, the first owner loses a lot of money. If you buy used, someone else has already taken both of those hits and you can ride with almost no depreciation. Your first bike is not your last bike, I wouldn't get too hung up on buying a specific model.

Out of interest, what bike are you looking at?
 
deals now and in the fall are on new, non-current inventory
would be surprised to see much of a discount on 2020 stuff already

if you know what bike you want and really want that Yamaha deal
you could do it from where you are over the phone to secure the $300 discount
paper it up in September when you can visit
 
It always depends on what the manufacturers and dealers are left with in inventory. There usually isn't a lot of room to move on a price at the dealer end, its up to the suppliers. Sometimes the incentives will come through in financing or warranty extensions, don't always count on a simple price reduction. Buy what you want to buy when you want to buy it.
 
J_F said:
deals now and in the fall are on new, non-current inventory
would be surprised to see much of a discount on 2020 stuff already
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What about non-current used bikes?
 
TK4 said:
It always depends on what the manufacturers and dealers are left with in inventory. There usually isn't a lot of room to move on a price at the dealer end, its up to the suppliers. Sometimes the incentives will come through in financing or warranty extensions, don't always count on a simple price reduction. Buy what you want to buy when you want to buy it.
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Food points
I would add, On something that is in the market for the first year, dont expect magic unless it is a dog.
 
any dealer sitting on a pile of used I expect will be blowing that stuff out
it's cash sitting there on the showroom floor, accruing interest every month
 
J_F said:
deals now and in the fall are on new, non-current inventory
would be surprised to see much of a discount on 2020 stuff already

if you know what bike you want and really want that Yamaha deal
you could do it from where you are over the phone to secure the $300 discount
paper it up in September when you can visit
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Wouldn't the manufacturers incentive only apply when the deal completes? would they be retroactively applying it in September when the promo ended in aug 31?

also, lots of datapoints already in the forum for getting pdi+freight waived on msrp price. anyone do it successfully with a manufacturer's promo/rebate?
 
Bookmark this site and check it occasionally: ADVENTURE AS SEEN IN REAL LIFE <- Honda distributor special offers.

J_F said:
any dealer sitting on a pile of used I expect will be blowing that stuff out
it's cash sitting there on the showroom floor, accruing interest every month
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Where do you think the motorcycle salvage yards buy from when they buy 20 old used trade-in motorcycles at a time.
 
gt915 said:
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also, lots of datapoints already in the forum for getting pdi+freight waived on msrp price. anyone do it successfully with a manufacturer's promo/rebate?
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The special offer discounts page I linked you to is the distributors discount, dealers might try to suggest that is their discount but it's not.
The dealer Might discount the unpacking and pre-delivery inspection, because that is usually a crock of **** surcharge anyway,
but no way will they pick up your cost of shipping.
Best deal you can possibly get from a dealership, is when you go pick up your bike, still in the crate from the shipping warehouse in Montreal, before the dealer even takes possession of the bike.
 
Trials said:
Best deal you can possibly get from a dealership, is when you go pick up your bike, still in the crate from the shipping warehouse in Montreal, before the dealer even takes possession of the bike.
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I don't know of a single distributor that would do that - what about crate damage, improper PDI (and resultant warranty claims) ?
These guys CSC will direct ship you the bike partially assembled, but you can bet your boots they already checked it over.

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TK4 said:
I don't know of a single distributor that would do that - what about crate damage, improper PDI (and resultant warranty claims) ?
These guys CSC will direct ship you the bike partially assembled, but you can bet your boots they already checked it over.

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CSC Motorcycles is a powersports dealership located in Azusa, CA . We sell new affordable small displacement Motorcycles from CSC with excellent financing and pricing options. CSC Motorcycles offers service and parts, and proudly serves the areas of Los Angeles, Pasadena, Ontario and Anaheim.
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Distributor? If it was a Honda that would be Honda Canada. Most distributors won't sell directly to an end customer if they have dealership agreements, that would be the case with Honda and Harley etc. If you are buying the motorcycle from the guy importing them and they have no dealers that are going to freak over it, won't be a problem to buy direct and then you can cook whatever deal you want with them.

Almost every bike I seen in the crate so far had crate damage but the bike was fine inside ymmv.
... the bikes were also ready to go and pre-tested at the factory, you might have to install the handlebars if they took them off to make the crate smaller.
Warranty :LOL: well to start with competition bikes don't have a warranty and the warrantied street bikes I bought from dealerships, every one of those crooks went broke years ago. The Distributor is the guy that needs to authorize a warranty claim anyway. As long as the distributor is around you have somebody to talk to about your manufacturers defects warranty claim.

If I want to buy a brand new Honda motorcycle and leave it right in the crate, would your dealership insist you pay them for a PDI they never performed? You must be dealing with a crap dealership, give it a few years and they will go broke too.

If you are going to plate the bike, you need the NVIS from the distributor.
"Motorcycle and moped manufacturers or importers must now supply a NVIS to their dealers, commencing with the introduction of a 1984 model year."
If you are buying from an importer he is your dealer. ... you won't be buying a Honda from the importer.
 
Trials said:
Distributor? If it was a Honda that would be Honda Canada. Most distributors won't sell directly to an end customer if they have dealership agreements, that would be the case with Honda and Harley etc. If you are buying the motorcycle from the guy importing them and they have no dealers that are going to freak over it, won't be a problem to buy direct and then you can cook whatever deal you want with them.

Almost every bike I seen in the crate so far had crate damage but the bike was fine inside ymmv.
... the bikes were also ready to go and pre-tested at the factory, you might have to install the handlebars if they took them off to make the crate smaller.
Warranty :LOL: well to start with competition bikes don't have a warranty and the warrantied street bikes I bought from dealerships, every one of those crooks went broke years ago. The Distributor is the guy that needs to authorize a warranty claim anyway. As long as the distributor is around you have somebody to talk to about your manufacturers defects warranty claim.

If I want to buy a brand new Honda motorcycle and leave it right in the crate, would your dealership insist you pay them for a PDI they never performed? You must be dealing with a crap dealership, give it a few years and they will go broke too.

If you are going to plate the bike, you need the NVIS from the distributor.
"Motorcycle and moped manufacturers or importers must now supply a NVIS to their dealers, commencing with the introduction of a 1984 model year."
If you are buying from an importer he is your dealer. ... you won't be buying a Honda from the importer.
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Go ahead, tell me who is going to sell you a brand new bike in the crate ? Anyone - Bueller ?
MAYBE you'd find one at a bankruptcy auction, but not likely.
There's a liability involved - if you were to assemble it wrong (i.e. forget to tighten up an axle nut) who's at fault ?
Don't blow smoke up my ass Trials, especially regarding a new motorcycle for a first time rider who's not buying an offroad competition bike.
Stick with riding over rocks.
 
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Trials said:
Best deal you can possibly get from a dealership, is when you go pick up your bike, still in the crate from the shipping warehouse in Montreal, before the dealer even takes possession of the bike.
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Ain't gonna happen.
The bike has to go to a dealer. You need a dealer's license to sell new motorcycles in Canada.
Honda, Suzuki, Kawi etc etc don't have dealer's licenses. That's why they can't sell cars and bike on the internet model... even Teslas.

I've been through this a couple of times getting off road race bikes. I dealt directly with Suzuki to get the bike, BUT had to arrange delivery through a dealer, SO THE SALES TAXES COULD BE PAID.
I took delivery in a crate both times. No liability as it was noted on the sales contract that I took the bike in the crate with no PDI or assembly. (Remember Norm from Cycle World West? He wouldn't write the deal UNLESS he got commish on FULL RETAIL price on the bike. He got yelled at, LOUDLY. Peter wrote the deal for nothin' but Norm had to sign off on it. GOOD TIMES. Norm REALLY didn't like this no PDI thing, I could tell. When the bike arrived at Cycle World on the truck, Norm wouldn't let the guy un-load it. The guy had to wait for me to arrive. He was ******!!!! Bitzz arrives, shoves the new bike in a box off the back of the truck and it dropped 4 feet to the ground on the end of the crate, denting it slightly. Backed my pickup up to the bike, rolled it into the back of my truck and drove off. It was a bit of a show. Norm was ******. The second one was a lot easier).

I don't think Norm has ever forgiven me.

I had a bike directly from Suzuki, it was used (either Sharpless or Roi rode it at Daytona) and I had to give it back at the end of the year. Suzuki kept ownership of the bike. It got crushed.
 
Ok it never happened.

"especially regarding a new motorcycle for a first time rider who's not buying an offroad competition bike"
he didn't ask about the PDI charges you did. All he asked for was good deals on new bikes and I gave him that.

... having a camp fire tonight to burn a motorcycle crate.
 
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Trials said:
Ok it never happened.

"especially regarding a new motorcycle for a first time rider who's not buying an offroad competition bike"
he didn't ask about the PDI charges you did. All he asked for was good deals on new bikes and I gave him that.
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You buy from a road legal bike from a dealer you're going to pay freight and PDI, along with sales taxes and licencing.
 
My suggestion - wait till November...
CERB runs out, and the financial pain will set in. It sucks, but it's a reality.
First thing to go is toys. Bikes. Jet Skis. Boats. Etc.

Get a used 250-400cc bike. I'm guessing a big sell off will happen. I hope not, but most signs I see point that way (unfortunately).

Just a suggestion which may be totally wrong, but a view point that hasn't been offered here as of yet that I can see.
 
TK4 said:
You buy from a road legal bike from a dealer you're going to pay freight and PDI, along with sales taxes and licencing.
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read it again
Trials said:
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The dealer Might discount the unpacking and pre-delivery inspection, because that is usually a crock of **** surcharge anyway,
but no way will they pick up your cost of shipping.
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+ I was not talking about sales tax and registration, but now that you mention it, what if your distributor/dealer is in Alberta.
Are you going to register that bike in Alberta and pay Alberta sales tax, or in Ontario and pay the sales tax when you plate it?
 
GreyGhost said:
I always recommend a used bike for the first one. It is almost a certainty that the first bike falls over (normally when almost stopped). Between the depreciation on a new vehicle and the battle scars, the first owner loses a lot of money. If you buy used, someone else has already taken both of those hits and you can ride with almost no depreciation. Your first bike is not your last bike, I wouldn't get too hung up on buying a specific model.

Out of interest, what bike are you looking at?
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True. I got my first 2 bikes used, never dropped the first, low sided the 2nd, and then got my first brand new one this year, dropped it 4-5 times already ? So although i do agree and recommended a used one first, if you can't find one you like that is well kept and not a money pit/unsafe junk, get the bike you're comfortable with and can afford, even if its new. You can drop a bike in your first year of riding, or your 20th year

deapreciation is very true, both my used bikes i sold for a profit after almost tripling the km's on them, and got them with mod's I already wanted.
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