Yamaha's new monstrosity

Serious question: Does push steering/counter steering work the same way on a bike like this? Or does riding take on some kind of different dynamic?

Apparently yes, and some more interesting stuff as well - I read this review last night of the scooter RedDog posted..and honestly, it kind of makes me want to try it too. Same situation as you suggested however. ;)

http://www.gizmag.com/go/8251/
 
Looks like they stole a bit of the Bombardier concept. Who is this bike for anyway? Someone who is scared they will fall over? Theoretically a bike like that should perform well in tight twisties. Looks like an aberration though. It will be gone in a couple of years, lost on the scrap heap of history.
 
Excellent post, the extra expense would suck. Not needing a kickstand would be novel though.
I wonder if it acts like a lever. Does it lock itself when it comes to a standstill?
Looks like they stole a bit of the Bombardier concept. Who is this bike for anyway? Someone who is scared they will fall over? Theoretically a bike like that should perform well in tight twisties. Looks like an aberration though. It will be gone in a couple of years, lost on the scrap heap of history.
Technically it should outperform a 2 wheeler. On a track situation instead of you worrying about traction & trying to squeeze as much traction as possible. This has plenty because it has an extra tire. All the advantages of a car around a track is answered here
 
It's like the marketing team was like: There are a lot of people for can't ride a motorcycle and can't use their own two feet to balance....lets build them a bike"...
 
The answer is casuals. Filthy euro-style casuals. Worse than scooter riders and a threat to the very SPORT of posing. Gyroscopically balanced frappucinos and selfies. A no-committment millennial fad destined for the scrap heap of hipsterism. Yama-HA is right, like a bad joke. #inrebrules


I think this is a bit shortsighted. More "riders" or whatever you may call them is better for the motorcycling community as a whole. Especially in Ontario, motorcycles are not taken seriously as a mode of transport, simply a nuisance on the roads to the general public. We can only hope this mentality changes with strength in numbers as it will be beneficial in the long run.

Would I have one? Absolutely not - although I dig the headlight design.

Would I stop 20000 people/casuals/plebs/hipsters from buying it? No.
 
^ Gentleman and a scholar. We need more of this around here. Well done.
 
Perfect for those, who want something smaller than a car, but safer than a motorcycle, while still having access to motorcycle-only lanes.

[video=youtube;Bu_a5vq36K4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu_a5vq36K4[/video]

Serious question: Does push steering/counter steering work the same way on a bike like this? Or does riding take on some kind of different dynamic?

From my understanding, turning the bars to left, makes the trike lean to left, even when it's stationary - no countersteering involved.
 
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I think this is a bit shortsighted. More "riders" or whatever you may call them is better for the motorcycling community as a whole. Especially in Ontario, motorcycles are not taken seriously as a mode of transport, simply a nuisance on the roads to the general public. We can only hope this mentality changes with strength in numbers as it will be beneficial in the long run.

Would I have one? Absolutely not
- although I dig the headlight design.

Would I stop 20000 people/casuals/plebs/hipsters from buying it? No.

It's your (bolded) sentiment that everyone here is basically sharing. I don't think anyone's trying to stop anything. I would still wave to them ;)
 
^ Gentleman and a scholar. We need more of this around here. Well done.

I thought you were on my side! The nerve...

Japan Inc. is a factory of enigmatic decisions and this odd duck is the latest interrobang. Being a not-real rider on a not-real bike, I stand by my statements.

Will everyone gather around and agree that a Japanese version of a Morgan 3-wheeler would bring more to the table? Copycat British styling a must , no weirdo Bombardier or Polaris swooshing. A Morgan Miata if you will, wicker basket in the boot, dangerously endearing.

Inreb and Dresden would be an envious shade of Shamrock Shake as I tooted past them in Belfountain. Still, we are all gentlemen standing against the encroaching future, so there is no question I would offer to share my picnic lunch. Would it make for a terrible Go-Pro video, scored to terrible pop music? I sincerely hope so. #inrebrules
 
I'm glad they shot that video in the dark, as there wasn't much to see, so special effects are required. The bike does not even corner sharply in nay of the turns. I agree it looks like the Piaggio MP3 of a couple of years back. If it had a completely enclosed car body that would make it more interesting.
 
Shamrock Shakes.....brb.

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I thought you were on my side! The nerve...

Japan Inc. is a factory of enigmatic decisions and this odd duck is the latest interrobang. Being a not-real rider on a not-real bike, I stand by my statements.

Will everyone gather around and agree that a Japanese version of a Morgan 3-wheeler would bring more to the table? Copycat British styling a must , no weirdo Bombardier or Polaris swooshing. A Morgan Miata if you will, wicker basket in the boot, dangerously endearing.

Inreb and Dresden would be an envious shade of Shamrock Shake as I tooted past them in Belfountain. Still, we are all gentlemen standing against the encroaching future, so there is no question I would offer to share my picnic lunch. Would it make for a terrible Go-Pro video, scored to terrible pop music? I sincerely hope so. #inrebrules

I'm on everybodys' side. Except the J.A.Pan Co. Their engineering may be second only to Chink Inc. but it has been long time no styling coup d'etat. I rather fancy your Shamrock Shake hued Miata Morgan 3 wheeler proposal. I'm seeing smooth lines, French and compound curves, wire wheels and faux exposed valve springs. Dare I say leather bonnet straps? Belfountain drive by indeed.
 
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This could be a good alternative for disabled people that currently only have one option which is a can-am spyder, gets them leaning again.
Don't understand why you people are complaining, having options is never bad, obviously a motorcycle forum is going to be biased against this.
 
This could be a good alternative for disabled people that currently only have one option which is a can-am spyder, gets them leaning again.
Don't understand why you people are complaining, having options is never bad, obviously a motorcycle forum is going to be biased against this.

Those in the differently-abled camp have plentiful, if pricey options: Urals and other sidecar conversions, Goldwing and Harley Trikes, several Piaggio MP3 flavours, plus the lost-in-translation T-Rex, Slingshot and Can Am Spider (which ought to have eight wheels, not three). They can risk the straight, Protestant highways of Ontario with rest of us, made equal through engineering.

Shimmering wire wheels, creaking leather and waxed canvass roll top, V-twin thrumming through the countryside, while sunshine glints off the brightwork. That's a choice I would like to have, Mister Yamaha. Also, an accessory trailer for towing Joe Bass along for when his cruiser breaks down. Ever tried Farquhar's Ice Cream? Now that's a summer treat. A triple scoop cone is the only way to go, as Inreb will know.
 
This could be a good alternative for disabled people that currently only have one option which is a can-am spyder, gets them leaning again.

Those in the differently-abled camp have plentiful, if pricey options: Urals and other sidecar conversions, Goldwing and Harley Trikes, several Piaggio MP3 flavours, plus the lost-in-translation T-Rex, Slingshot and Can Am Spider (which ought to have eight wheels, not three).

It's the leaning part I think you missed, that's a fair argument - someone with disabilities that doesn't want to ride something flat-footed would be able to ride (and aggressively lean, so long as their disability allows that) one of these, all while still having a trike-ish sort of experience when stopped or at low speeds.

It looks like it still has a kickstand, however. I didn't read enough to find out if it has a "lock" on the front end tilt mechanism like the aforementioned scooter has - when activated at low speeds it negates the need to both put your feet down at stops, but probably also the kickstand when done riding.
 
It's the leaning part I think you missed, that's a fair argument - someone with disabilities that doesn't want to ride something flat-footed would be able to ride (and aggressively lean, so long as their disability allows that) one of these, all while still having a trike-ish sort of experience when stopped or at low speeds.

It looks like it still has a kickstand, however. I didn't read enough to find out if it has a "lock" on the front end tilt mechanism like the aforementioned scooter has - when activated at low speeds it negates the need to both put your feet down at stops, but probably also the kickstand when done riding.

The MP3 has been leaning since it was introduced and some sidecar setups lean too, although not as common (one GTAMer has one, I think). Still room in the market for Yammy if it's higher spec/better value than the Italians, but I didn't miss leaning, ho-ho! IIRC, Piaggio's system has a handle bar switch to lock out the leaning at low speeds/stops, so the forgetful can still drop it. More recent models may be speedometer based, which would be less of a nuisance. Who knows what the Japanese have decided for their version.
 
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