Sell me on a Supermoto please!

Drennan57

Drennan57

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I am wondering if i would be better served to move over to the Supermoto side instead of continuing with Sport bikes.

Yay or Nay? Also the selection is kinda bare over here in Canada but which ones should i be looking for?

Thanks guys.
 
Drennan57 said:
I am wondering if i would be better served to move over to the Supermoto side instead of continuing with Sport bikes.

Yay or Nay? Also the selection is kinda bare over here in Canada but which ones should i be looking for?

Thanks guys.
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There are pluses and minuses to both but if you plan on doing any long range touring in the future stick with the sportbikes. Unless you can have both.

Supermoto's > Sportbikes in urban environments. City/stop and go technical stuff.

Sportbikes > Supermoto for higher speed riding, highway riding and sweeping corners etc.
 
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Drennan57 said:
I am wondering if i would be better served to move over to the Supermoto side instead of continuing with Sport bikes.

Yay or Nay? Also the selection is kinda bare over here in Canada but which ones should i be looking for?

Thanks guys.
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I don't understand a word here. ?
Aii mein?

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2012 FZ6R Raven Edition
2013 Ninja 300 Special edition
2002 CBR600F4I (Sold)

Keep the FZ6R for posing at Timmies
Sell the Ninja 300
Purchase a DRZ400s (dual sport, not the supermoto) for Adventure rides


 
FLSTC said:
2012 FZ6R Raven Edition
2013 Ninja 300 Special edition
2002 CBR600F4I (Sold)

Keep the FZ6R for posing at Timmies
Sell the Ninja 300
Purchase a DRZ400s (dual sport, not the supermoto) for Adventure rides
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Why is FZ6R for posing at Timmies? lol It's a touring bike.

An isn't the SM built with some better components? Suspension wise specifically. Couldn't you just put nobbies on the SM and have the better bike offroad as well? Could be totally wrong about this btw.
 
The s model has better suspension for off road riding, it has more travel. The SM has less travel and is less plush.
The fz6r is a runabout.

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Iceman said:
The s model has better suspension for off road riding, it has more travel. The SM has less travel and is less plush.
The fz6r is a runabout.

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I can see why the S would appeal to some people but i already have a dedicated offroader so it would be rather redundant in my garage.

Is there any other comparable to the DRZ or is that really the only viable choice here? If Yamaha would come out with a WR400SM i would buy it instantly as i'm not a fan of the 250.

Maybe we will see something to compete directly with the DRZ soon.
 
Drennan57 said:
I am wondering if i would be better served to move over to the Supermoto side instead of continuing with Sport bikes.

Yay or Nay? Also the selection is kinda bare over here in Canada but which ones should i be looking for?

Thanks guys.
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what sportbike do you currently have?

i see your sig says:
2012 FZ6R Raven Edition
2013 Ninja 300 Special edition
2002 CBR600F4I (Sold)

so the F4I being the only real sport bike is listed as sold.
nothing wrong with anything on your list but the FZ6r but its a sport touring and the Ninja 300 is not really a real sportbike.

with that being said, i have friends who have a DRZ400, KTM 530, KTM 430 and a few others with street tires. fun bikes, hell yes, great to commute....nope.

im quite happy on my SS to commute

 
regder said:
I would hate to have a supermoto as an only bike. Terrible fuel range, uncomfortable for long rides, poor at highway speeds, etc.

If all you want is a bike for booting around the city, or a second bike, supermoto all the way

This thread has some good info, http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?193638-Supermoto-help&highlight=supermoto
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That's a good point thanks. I would be selling/trading the Ninja 300 on the SM so i'll still have my FZ to take care of that.
 
How do people that ride supermoto's in the city manage to keep their licences? They just encourage you to do wheelies and ride down staircases.
 
Id only buy a supermoto if you can afford 2 bikes. Supermotos imo like greyghost has said will end up getting you into a lot of trouble due to the fact that they are wheelie machines and have tons of torque that just makes you want to use it to its full potential. Ive wanted the DR-Z400SM for years now and won't because i know ill have more tickets then i can imagine. Also like mentioned previously by the others they are uncomfortable for long distance and crappy on fuel....its a dirt bike with street slicks.
 
I don't know... having a DRZ myself (although not a supermoto), I tend to disagree with some of the comments.

You can get a better seat for a DRZ. I have a seat concepts seat, but other options exist such as Sargent or Corbin. I've done trips up to 2000km on my DRZ and I didn't find it too bad in the way of comfort. I wouldn't expect to do that many miles on an interstate type highway... but who wants to ride that anyway? To me, a SS doesn't look comfortable at all -- I prefer an upright seating position. It is also very easy to change where you are sitting on a dirt-bike... just slide up or down the seat until you are comfortable again.

For mileage... I've rarely gotten worse than 4.5l/100k and sometimes as good as 3.5l/100k with the stock 400s sprocket sizes. That seems pretty damn good to me... better than my Vstrom usually gets. Sure my range is only 150km, but aftermarket tanks exist that can double that range.

Finally, my insurance on the DRZ is $240/year for liability and comprehensive. Yes, I am an old guy (okay, actually middle aged)... but I doubt I could get on an SS for much less than $1000/year.
 
You don't want a Supermoto.
 
Motorcycle Mike said:
I don't know... having a DRZ myself (although not a supermoto), I tend to disagree with some of the comments.

You can get a better seat for a DRZ. I have a seat concepts seat, but other options exist such as Sargent or Corbin. I've done trips up to 2000km on my DRZ and I didn't find it too bad in the way of comfort. I wouldn't expect to do that many miles on an interstate type highway... but who wants to ride that anyway? To me, a SS doesn't look comfortable at all -- I prefer an upright seating position. It is also very easy to change where you are sitting on a dirt-bike... just slide up or down the seat until you are comfortable again.

For mileage... I've rarely gotten worse than 4.5l/100k and sometimes as good as 3.5l/100k with the stock 400s sprocket sizes. That seems pretty damn good to me... better than my Vstrom usually gets. Sure my range is only 150km, but aftermarket tanks exist that can double that range.

Finally, my insurance on the DRZ is $240/year for liability and comprehensive. Yes, I am an old guy (okay, actually middle aged)... but I doubt I could get on an SS for much less than $1000/year.
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I would be in heaven if my insurance was 240/yr. That's something that I was curious about as well.

If the FZ6R = 900/yr what could I expect from the DRZ for the same coverage? Is it still significant compared to sport touring bikes like an FZ6R?

Sorry about all the questions I'm just intrigued by the idea.
 
Drennan57 said:
I would be in heaven if my insurance was 240/yr. That's something that I was curious about as well.

If the FZ6R = 900/yr what could I expect from the DRZ for the same coverage? Is it still significant compared to sport touring bikes like an FZ6R?

Sorry about all the questions I'm just intrigued by the idea.
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The only way to find out is call them up and ask. For me, my Vstrom is nearly 2x the yearly rate of my DRZ. I have never priced the insurance on a FZ6R.
 
regder said:
I would hate to have a supermoto as an only bike. Terrible fuel range, uncomfortable for long rides, poor at highway speeds, etc.

If all you want is a bike for booting around the city, or a second bike, supermoto all the way

This thread has some good info, http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?193638-Supermoto-help&highlight=supermoto
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Pretty much hit the nail on the head. I used to have one but doing longer rides especially highway got very tiring very quickly. I originally got it to replace my CBR250 to get a little more power but on the highway it was worse than even the little CBR.

If you are doing 90% city though it is super fun to ride and feels like a bicycle in terms of handling.
 
You guys are making me want to test ride a supermoto.

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I don't see the point in having a ninja 300 and a fz6. A drz400 would be the perfect second bike and they are cheap on insurance as well. You'd have one commuter and long distance rider, and one play bike on the side. Win win.

I agree they aren't the best all around bike, commuting on it is not really enjoyably although it can handle it. I avoid commuting on my bikes because its just not very enjoyable for me. I love them because it gives you an excuse to take part in a totally different kind of riding. You will ride new roads, explore dirt paths, hop curbs and other fun stuff. I have had a ninja 250, 06 cbr600rr and an 09 gsxr600. I have had a 400sm and a KTM 625smc in the garage for a long time and I don't miss the sporties one bit. You have to ask yourself, what type of riding gives you the most enjoyment.

Oh and not to mention, the cost to insure both of my bikes is still less than what I was paying on one supersport.

They aren't for everyone though, especially as your only bike. But you already have a fz6 soooo... go get one!
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