So who's building a 300 track bike?

Concac said:
So 3 of you will get podium! ��
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Same odds as Pro 600 you mean?

http://www.mylaps.com/en/classification/3728475

JP may return in 2016.

EQ, JW and JT have moved up to other classes.

Wait and see what happens with CSBK 300 Series, may add more to grid.

To that point, if someone builds or buys the Kawa 300 for CSBK: review the rules for RACE production classes foe the low cc bikes. If you mod the front forks etc, you may push yourself out of the production class into the lightweight superbike class.

EDIT: My last CBR250 is now sold.
 
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bakaboy said:
Same odds as Pro 600 you mean?

http://www.mylaps.com/en/classification/3728475

JP may return in 2016.

EQ, JW and JT have moved up to other classes.

Wait and see what happens with CSBK 300 Series, may add more to grid.

To that point, if someone builds or buys the Kawa 300 for CSBK: review the rules for RACE production classes foe the low cc bikes. If you mod the front forks etc, you may push yourself out of the production class into the lightweight superbike class.

EDIT: My last CBR250 is now sold.
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Is that top speed correct? 135km/h is much lower than i expected for a track that is "4km".

Edit: RACE 300 does not let you mod the front forks? oh dear..... what about the rear shock? The Kawa 300 suspension is terrible in the stock form..... i think the guy with 130lbs will win :)
 
That's average speed

Production allows limited mods on front.

Concac said:
Is that top speed correct? 135km/h is much lower than i expected for a track that is "4km".

Edit: RACE 300 does not let you mod the front forks? oh dear..... what about the rear shock? The Kawa 300 suspension is terrible in the stock form..... i think the guy with 130lbs will win :)
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You can change springs. Emmulators would be disallowed unless they were on the original bike.
 
STR said:
Bummer. I forget, can you run clip-ons? One of my bars is bent.
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Clipons are allowed

Below are rules of 2015 Lightweight Production. Keep in mind that I have no idea if 2016 rules will be the same.

I copied this from SOAR rulebook just because my phone didn't seem to want to copy from RACE rulebook pdf. They should have been identical but I have never compared.

Keep in mind that rules can change if the organization feels that a change is warranted.

Production:

380cc Four stroke multi or twin
400cc Four stroke single
500cc Four stroke air cooled (vintage legal)
400cc Two stroke air cooled street based
Wheels:
Must be of stock design and type
Front Suspension:
Externals must be stock including brake stays
Internal springs may be changed but dampening system must remain stock.
Rear Suspension:
May be upgraded to aftermarket unit
Brakes:
Lines may be upgraded to steel braided
Calipers and master cylinder must remain stock
Pads/shoes may be upgraded to track grade
Rotors must remain stock
Frame:
Must be OEM but may be delugged and fitted with bung for damper
Electronics:
CDI and wire harness must be OEM of street design
Fuel System:
Fuel control device may be used
Stock carbs if fitted must be used may be rejetted
Stock T/B must be used if fitted
Airbox must be retained but may be modified and used with or without air filter
Bodywork:
Must appear stock in style
Double Bubble style windshield permitted
Must have liquid retaining lowers or damming of stock lowers to handle bikes fluid capacity.
Controls:
Must use original throttle set up (no quick turn)
Levers may be changed to aftermarket style
Rear sets may be fitted
Charging System:
Must remain installed and operational
Exhaust:
May be changed out for aftermarket
Must not end past rear wheel
Must not exceed particular track noise requirements.
Engine:
Must remain stock internally as well as externally
Camshafts may not be changed
Adjustable cam gears may be used
Cylinder head may not be ported and oversized valves are not permitted
Oil and cooling systems may be upgraded
Pistons and connecting rods may be aftermarket but must be stock dimensions
Transmission gears may not be undercut
Transmission gears may not alter ratio
Slipper style clutch not accepted unless of stock design
Timing control not permitted
Clutch plates and springs may be upgraded
Final drive gearing without restriction
Steering damper may be added
Crash guards may be added
 
Mina said:
Lol... He's not going to win because of his weight... ;)
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I think people need to remember that there is more to racing than weight and the equipment.

You need to keep concentration for the period of the race riding at your max... not easy
You need to not make any mistakes
You need to have corner speed
Know the fast lines
Have balls to make passes and hit corners at fast speed

...etc etc etc.

once you get all that under control, then the weight and equipment gives you an edge.

Not easy people, not easy. Not forgetting that you must also have the time, money and dedication to race a full season, sounds easy but it is so hard to actually do a full season.
 
bakaboy said:
Same odds as Pro 600 you mean?

http://www.mylaps.com/en/classification/3728475

JP may return in 2016.

EQ, JW and JT have moved up to other classes.

Wait and see what happens with CSBK 300 Series, may add more to grid.

To that point, if someone builds or buys the Kawa 300 for CSBK: review the rules for RACE production classes foe the low cc bikes. If you mod the front forks etc, you may push yourself out of the production class into the lightweight superbike class.

EDIT: My last CBR250 is now sold.
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is their a possibility your "team" will be running an R3 ? along with the sv650?
 
Not likely.

2 SV650 and 2 600.

I had considered a Ninja 300 but with Kawa/CSBK unable to provide guidance, I have moved to make my plans for 2016.

We will be running the appropriate classes at Shanny.



boyoboy said:
is their a possibility your "team" will be running an R3 ? along with the sv650?
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Which trackdays will you guys be bringing your small bikes to next year?

Bakaboy told me Riders Choice does Shannonville on Thursdays so I might do that.
 
Too early to tell, nothing is posted yet since the 2015 track day season just wrapped up. I checked R/C, GP Bikes and Pro6 websites on the weekend, no 2016 schedules.
 
Supernam said:
Which trackdays will you guys be bringing your small bikes to next year?

Bakaboy told me Riders Choice does Shannonville on Thursdays so I might do that.
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Yep, I'll probably do a couple of RC's Thursday trackdays.
Also, Shannonville do Friday trackdays, for racers and trackday riders combined, before the RACE weekends too ....
 
I am feeling the Christmas spirit coming and since I want to see the small cc bike class grow.

I offer the following:

For all new racers who join the grid for Lightweight Production for Round 1 at RACE in 2016:

I will pay your transponder rental fee for that weekend ($45).

If you have raced before, sorry you are excluded.

EDIT: RACE has my proposal in writing and they will administer some form of system before the first round to manage my offer.
 
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bakaboy said:
I am feeling the Christmas spirit coming and since I want to see the small cc bike class grow.

I offer the following:

For all new racers who join the grid for Lightweight Production for Round 1 at RACE in 2016:

I will pay your transponder rental fee for that weekend ($45).

If you have raced before, sorry you are excluded.
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Why? whats the catch?
 
bakaboy said:
I am feeling the Christmas spirit coming and since I want to see the small cc bike class grow.

I offer the following:

For all new racers who join the grid for Lightweight Production for Round 1 at RACE in 2016:

I will pay your transponder rental fee for that weekend ($45).

If you have raced before, sorry you are excluded.
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Very cool of you. Now the first weekend costs even less. :thumbup:
 
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