I was talking about my post in regards to lending a spare track bike to friends for track use... who has liability if they crash and damage or hurt others.
Scenario ... Uninsured bike stolen gets into a crash ?
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Potentially yours. What's to say that you were not negligent in maintaining your bike and that said negligence played a role in crash? The friend you lent it to could sue you.
Victims can sue anyone who had a hand in the loss, the rider who crashed, the owner of the bike, the track day or race organizers, track support staff and the track itself.
What about the waiver we sign at registration
It only relieve the track owner from any liability. Any other private matters between riders is another story.
Hint if you hit me and cause injuries.... You bet your *** i will sue you
The waiver doesn't change anything. You cannot sign away your responsibility for being negligent, for example.
Historically - and, thankfully - the track day / roadracing crowd have not been lawsuit-happy, and hopefully that doesn't change. But ... If your bike that you lent out has some sort of major fault, and you lend it out, the rider you lend it to theoretically could sue you. (Just because it could theoretically happen, doesn't mean that it routinely does happen. But it could.)
The only track-related lawsuits that I'm aware of, happened because insurance companies got involved.
Historically - and, thankfully - the track day / roadracing crowd have not been lawsuit-happy, and hopefully that doesn't change. But ... If your bike that you lent out has some sort of major fault, and you lend it out, the rider you lend it to theoretically could sue you. (Just because it could theoretically happen, doesn't mean that it routinely does happen. But it could.)
The only track-related lawsuits that I'm aware of, happened because insurance companies got involved.
Stay away from track days or roadracing if you are the type to blame everyone else in sight.
The liability waiver protects that track owner against legal liability about as well as a piece of tin foil.
I was under the impression that, if the victim dies or is critically injured, their spouse can sue for losses (Income, the kiddies etc). Even though the rider signed the waiver the spouse probably didn't.
Oh im sorry but you got no say in this.
You think others track riders would do the same? Lets see if one dies due to some idiot spilled coolant on the track...
As far as i know there is no way for you to stop anyone from civil lawsuits so i wouldnt be uptight if i were you
Sounds to me like you found out the hard way that some Service Ontario clerks are ignorant goofs. Or you completely misunderstood what you were being told.
You can own as many unplated and unregistered vehicles as you want. Its a lump of metal.
Spouse can sue, parents can sue, anyone who can claim some sort of loss can sue. The waiver means next to nothing. The waiver is little more than a paper tiger.
Completely 100% correct .....know first hand signed waiver not at track and yes owner found negligent and insurance paid out within 3 years of injury in mediation phase
Found out the hard way how?
Please don't come to the track
However, you can't have them on your property in most places around the city.
And from another thread ...
For the most part, it's not experienced track riders that you need to worry about ... it's yourself.
This. ^^
There is a bylaw in my 'hood that says that you can't park a company work vehicle (ie. HVAC, construction, coffee truck) on your driveway overnight. Yeah, try enforcing that in da 'bridge lol
Not many jobs you can make >$100K a year with a high school diploma. Mayor of Toronto is another one.
