June 7th TMP, Roll call

its all the same camera, Sony Action cam.
Not sure about best time, gps wasnt working.
Roughly a 1:19, due to the **** in 6.
 
Through the corner coming onto the front straight you are not using all the track. You can start accelerating sooner and let the bike naturally run out closer to the wall.

Way early braking into corner 1. Should be more than one downshift, too. (edit - figured out why below) I prefer to blip the throttle to match revs to get the shift done quicker. Doesn't matter slipper clutch or not.

Take a tighter line through corner 1, stay tighter to the second apex (couldn't even see it on camera in the lap that I'm watching), and start accelerating sooner. You are almost not accelerating until straight up and down.

Infield corners had traffic. You can come tighter to some corner apexes, others were OK.

Slowing down too early coming up to the chicane. Next couple corners were OK aside from traffic. After the hairpin right, the next left can be taken as a big sweeper and REALLY fast.

Pulling in and out of the pits to get away from that traffic was a good move ...

edit: You're only getting up to 4th gear ... gearing is too tall, that's why only one downshift!

spot checked a lap time at around 1:26 ... my lap times are in the same range, but that's with 60 hp on a good day on a 24 year old bike ...

Keep working at it ...
 
edit: You're only getting up to 4th gear ... gearing is too tall, that's why only one downshift!
LOL :) I'm already running -2/+2!!!

I get up to 4th on the front straight, drop it down to third for the side straight (I tickle the rev limiter on the side straight sometimes) then down to 2nd for the rest of the track. I can sometimes hit the rev limiter in 2nd between turn 6 and the chicane (when there isn't a huge spill in 6).

My 1:22 lap from that same day (post antifreeze/brake fluid spill in 6):

[video=youtube;zFV3zBN_5lo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFV3zBN_5lo[/video]

For some reason when there's traffic I screw up all my lines and braking points, etc. I think I must target fixate them in front of me and quit looking through the corners!

And turn 1, I tried to lean it harder to hold a tighter line to the second apex and I scraped my (stock) footpegs :( That was at 51 degree lean angle. In that 1:22 vid above I hold 48 degrees through the corner. Even at 51 degrees I still got a ton of tire left, so I think I'ma need some rearsets if I'm going to lean it any more with my crappy body position!

Thanks for all the info Brian. I printed it out so I can make a list of what to work on when I go back June 26th :)
 
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What do u know about the crash? Or should I say crashes


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Well 90% of the info here on this thread is accurate regarding thee initial crashed

And I didn't think it would escadate that quickly like fire where few people would be asking TMP for a refund now because of the mishap either from the rider or the inspection
There seemed to be people having good runs after but as stated above it was discussed to only give fifty percent throttle at the turn
 
What does the throttle have to do with a lowside ? There's coolant on the track throttle won't matter nothing will

Well taking that corner at lower speed would help prevent crashes. Right?


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Well taking that corner at lower speed would help prevent crashes. Right?
A different line to avoid the coolant/oil, maybe. Slower speed? Not likely going to help. There were people taking it TURTLE slow in the first session after lunch/the brake fluid spill and still having scary moments. We pulled off the track and told the organizer how dangerous it was and that's when they went out and cleaned it up some more and let the cars run on it.
 
Apparently someone spiller antifreeze at turn 6 which resulted in 5-6 crashes in that turn. All before lunch. Each group only ran 2 sessions each.

After lunch they had a 2nd riders meeting and decided we took turn 6 at 50% throttle.


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:lmao:

This is not a "whatever, **** happens". To me this is gross negligence-one riders fault 100%. Cost you guys a lot of money and hurt because one damned rider couldn't be bothered to follow the rules the rest of us abide to. Oil or gas can't be helped if a crash occurs but this was 100% preventable.

I know we sign waivers when we cross that gate and that covers most stuff. NO waiver can excuse gross negligence though, and wayyy before 6 crashes later I'd be questioning that. I doubt I would have kept quiet and accepted the "cleaning". Probably would have left also.

Lucky it wasn't a worse outcome. I hope you two heal quick, post up if you need a hand or parts.

+1000000

Wow. Epic track day.


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Sounds more like a gtam group ride than a track day
 
So after lunch they had a second riders meeting to discuss how to safely avoid the problem, but they didn't try to clean it up over the lunch break? Do they not have concrete dust, or kitty litter, or something at TMP for cleaning up the drag strip?

...and good luck getting any sort of refund from TMP. There are lots of people who never got their money back from 8 years ago when they closed after selling pre-paid track days.
 
So after lunch they had a second riders meeting to discuss how to safely avoid the problem, but they didn't try to clean it up over the lunch break? Do they not have concrete dust, or kitty litter, or something at TMP for cleaning up the drag strip?
It wasn't right after lunch (the second meeting). They did dump a ton of concrete dust down at lunch and they thought they had it cleaned up. After the first session after lunch they red flagged the track and tried to clean it up better, then let the cars run out on it. THAT'S when they had the second riders meeting.
 
Okay, so they have concrete dust, that's good. Do they have brooms? Dumping it on is step one... serious, WTF... I have never worked as a marshal or worked at a race track so maybe I'm not qualified to comment, but it really seems that I know more about cleaning up a mess that those people.

This is good though, it just reinforces my decision to avoid TMP.
 
Okay, so they have concrete dust, that's good. Do they have brooms? Dumping it on is step one...
Judging by the plume of dust that came off the track when the cars drove over it, lap after lap, I would assume they don't have brooms. The organizer said "concrete dust isn't slippery, it's the crap underneath!"?
 
Judging by the plume of dust that came off the track when the cars drove over it, lap after lap, I would assume they don't have brooms. The organizer said "concrete dust isn't slippery, it's the crap underneath!"?

It's normal for some dust to be stirred up even after concrete dust has been swept off the track (because you can't sweep it all off) but the statement that "concrete dust isn't slippery" is absurd. It sure is slippery, if there is too much of it.
 
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