Paying HST on a used bike???

Mr Dumbass, that is clear. The point is, what sort of authority are you to determine what law is correct or not.

>Calls me a dumbass
>Can barely understand arguments
>Brings up a point never mentioned in previous posts and makes it seem as if its the main point in which your philosophy circles around
>Asks who I am to be critical about the entity which governs every aspect of my life.

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So much feelings going on in a thread irrelevant to feelings
 
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Mr Dumbass, that is clear. The point is, what sort of authority are you to determine what law is correct or not.

First off name calling is against the rules of this forum...


Second we can chose whether we want to follow a law or not, and with that come consequences.
Im taxed to death on a daily basis and would rather spend the 1300 elsewhere, instead of giving it to politicians who will piss it away on another scandal costing us a cool billion plus.

But hey if you're for giving the government so much of your money next time put down 2,3 or maybe 4 times the purchase price you paid for your bike and give them more cash..


BTW Uganda just passed a hell of a law, but i guess a law is a law and people deserve life in prison...
 
Is advocating and supporting tax evasion also part of the forum rules?
 
Ah
Fraud as a tax protest.
Yeah sure.

Since we're cherry picking here, why not save some real cash by stealing the bike, stealing a set of plates... oh and with a stolen bike there is no point in having insurance.
Think of all the money you save.

Why is this fraud? Isn't it fraud on the governments part collecting tax on change of ownership? I mean a business can't collect hst without an hst number, so why and how is it legal to collect hst on the same item over and over from private sales? is there hst collected from yard sales or on kijiji items? isn't this the same thing?
 
Cool lets start cherry picking what laws to follow. Apparently that's accepted.


I used X Copper to fight my Careless Driving charge and we won that.

I recently got a speeding ticket for 20 over the limit. Cop reduced it.

This is my Correspondence with X Copper.

ME

I recently got my first speeding ticket for 20 over on my motorbike.Curious to know what my options are. This was a 70 zone



Location Westbound on Gardiner expressway off ramp to lakeshore blv. Looked like a 100 zone.


HER
The prosecutor can ask for the charge to be amended to the original speed. We can still attempt to have the matter withdrawn or reduced further. If those options are not available, we will then enter a guilty plea as is so the prosecutor cannot bump the ticket up to the original charge.

Please advise how you would like to proceed.


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noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies
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the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.
 
It should be the way houses are taxed. New house pay HST. Used house no HST. NEW Car and Bikes HST paid. Used no HST.
 
Have i found a doozie


If a lower UVIP is declared what legal implications does this have?

If a bike is totalled how do the insurance companies value the bike? Could a low uvip value possibly lead to a discrepancy.

Guy selling me bike is also afraid to declare a lower value

Just put a deposit, if I have to pay tax on full value.. my have to reconsider and go with a 09 instead of a 10

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?142864-UVIP-Value-Insurance-and-Legality
 
It should be the way houses are taxed. New house pay HST. Used house no HST. NEW Car and Bikes HST paid. Used no HST.

This is the correct answer. Until the greedy govt gets a clue everyone should continue to stick it to them any way they can. Bunch of corrupt pricks

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hy·poc·ri·sy
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the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

Since when is it wrong to seek advice from a paralegal regarding my options?
 
Dont see your point. Obviously I investigated this option and analyzed both options. Did I say I wanted to evade taxes?

If I could not afford the tax at the time, I was willing to go with an older model.

So if you didnt attempt to "evade taxes" then why would you say that "Guy selling me bike is also afraid to declare a lower value" ?

Since when is it wrong to seek advice from a paralegal regarding my options?

You broke several laws...you come on here knocking on everyone who tries to save a buck on hst yet you attempted the same thing. Then you say laws are laws meanwhile you break them as well.

Your hypocrisy has been exposed....thank you for playing.
 
Conspiracy to defraud the government of tax income, I'm getting the **** outta here!
 
So if you didnt attempt to "evade taxes" then why would you say that "Guy selling me bike is also afraid to declare a lower value" ?



You broke several laws...you come on here knocking on everyone who tries to save a buck on hst yet you attempted the same thing. Then you say laws are laws meanwhile you break them as well.

Your hypocrisy has been exposed....thank you for playing.

I considered the advise on the forum, and discussed the options with the seller. Nothing more. He being a lawyer, advised me of the potential career risks and implications of evading taxes. I was new to canada at the time, and it was my first bike. Forgive me for asking questions.

No laws were broken.

Anyways, this is not worth my time. Say what you have to say, I am not here to defend myself. I only feel that we should not publicly provide one sided advice on how to evade taxes on used vehicles no matter how "incorrect" this law appears to be.
 
I was new to canada at the time, and it was my first bike. Forgive me for asking questions.

Now it makes sense!

Give it another decade or so Slayer, you grow tired of getting it up the arse. Maybe by then your naive school boy mentality will have worn off

why not just follow the lead of our so called leaders. McGuinty is guilty of numerous unlawful actions, yet he can shrug his shoulders at millions wasted, collect a full pension, and in reality probably never face the courts for any of it..... and I'm supposed to pay tax on a vehicle that has already been taxed! And if I dont, I'm scum! Laughable
 
For those of you who have chimed in with examples and advice on how to "reduce" the HST thank you for your input its exactly what I wanted:cool:. For those of you who like to pay tax and argue a bunch of BS, thank you for your input. If only we all enjoyed getting hooped as much as you..:p

At the end of the day BS is still BS!! Paying 13% 5+ times on single item no matter the amount still stinks..
 
Say your buying a bike worth $5000. Buy the bike for $1000 and pay him $4000 for the seat. On paper you just paid $1000 for the bike. No laws broken.
 
First off name calling is against the rules of this forum...


Second we can chose whether we want to follow a law or not, and with that come consequences.
Im taxed to death on a daily basis and would rather spend the 1300 elsewhere, instead of giving it to politicians who will piss it away on another scandal costing us a cool billion plus.

But hey if you're for giving the government so much of your money next time put down 2,3 or maybe 4 times the purchase price you paid for your bike and give them more cash..


BTW Uganda just passed a hell of a law, but i guess a law is a law and people deserve life in prison...


So glad I don't live in Uganda!

The other thing you need to think about is if anything should ever happen to your bike - you may have some issue with insurance. If you drop the value in purchase, then you may be up a creek trying to re-coop funds for an accident/stolen bike.

Personally - I don't get it, it's like paying tax at a yard sale. But I've bought two used bikes and paid the stupid tax. Cash Grab I say!
 
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