This is the same attitude that some riders have with regards to their safety. "MEMEMEMEMEMEME"
Yes, you're going to deliberately paralyze or kill somebody because they brake checked you. Somebody give me a trout, this man needs a slap.
Why are so many riders dependent on others going out of their way to not kill them?
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This is the same attitude that some riders have with regards to their safety. "MEMEMEMEMEMEME"
Yes, you're going to deliberately paralyze or kill somebody because they brake checked you. Somebody give me a trout, this man needs a slap.
skapan
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Anybody that thinks they can out brake a car on their sportbike could be in for a surprise. Go out with some friends in a car and try it for fun. But make sure you are BESIDE the car, not behind it. Don't forget, those magazine numbers are by professional riders on bikes with 100% tires inflated properly and 100% brakes bedded in properly. YMMV
starboy869
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not my fault for you slamming the brakes on in front off me. this would be me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWqWtKXK9Cs
don't like it? tough luck.
mind you I'd try and stop as per my dash cam, but yea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWqWtKXK9Cs
don't like it? tough luck.
mind you I'd try and stop as per my dash cam, but yea.
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It takes all kinds of riders.
Some are calm and relaxed.
Some are stressed and tense.
Calm and relaxed tend to go with the flow of traffic, looking out for dangers and playing it safe.
Stressed and tense riders will ride quickly and aggressively. Weaving through traffic and making headway.
The calm relaxed rider will never understand the thrill of riding aggressively.
So be it.
The stressed tense rider also likes to chat about the calm relaxed riders.
But we usually don't have time to talk to them, because they're too far behind us.
Some are calm and relaxed.
Some are stressed and tense.
Calm and relaxed tend to go with the flow of traffic, looking out for dangers and playing it safe.
Stressed and tense riders will ride quickly and aggressively. Weaving through traffic and making headway.
The calm relaxed rider will never understand the thrill of riding aggressively.
So be it.
The stressed tense rider also likes to chat about the calm relaxed riders.
But we usually don't have time to talk to them, because they're too far behind us.
PLau
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I'm sure many calm relaxed riders will eventually ride aggressively when they're in a rush to get somewhere.
Then again, it depends on how you define riding aggressively.
Ok I've seen brake checks but I've never seen bikers slamming on their brakes on purpose. With your attitude you should have your license suspended soon anyways.
Ok, I have brake checked a few idiot riders. I do it as I am looking back to make sure the moron will not actually hit me.
I ride to work every day, and it takes a lot to get me that mad.
The same guy every day, just wears on me. He is just an idiot. Me first, me first, me first at all costs.
He even tries to brake check me even when there are two car lengths in between us.
He drives a white Dodge van on Britannia road entering onto 401 at Hurontario.
There are "family stickers" on his back window, where the cat looks like it is taking a crap on the smallest kid.
One day, entering the 401 from Hurontario, he actually shoved me out of his way, and then got mad at ME.
I was in the only lane that is for entering onto the 401, he was crossing a solid white line to get into my lane.
I ride to work every day, and it takes a lot to get me that mad.
The same guy every day, just wears on me. He is just an idiot. Me first, me first, me first at all costs.
He even tries to brake check me even when there are two car lengths in between us.
He drives a white Dodge van on Britannia road entering onto 401 at Hurontario.
There are "family stickers" on his back window, where the cat looks like it is taking a crap on the smallest kid.
One day, entering the 401 from Hurontario, he actually shoved me out of his way, and then got mad at ME.
I was in the only lane that is for entering onto the 401, he was crossing a solid white line to get into my lane.
bsawant
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since we are ranting about other riders, here are a few of my pet peeves
- Riders who use the wrong lane position and complain about being cut off.
Example, i was in my cage the other day and passed a rider in the left lane (flow of traffic) but this guy was on the left side of the left lane so completely in my mirrors blind spot, not only that but, he was also perfectly behind my b pillar. Had I not known that he was there in the first place, would have ended up cutting him off.
- Riders who weave all over their lane, so you can never position your bike behind them.
- People in cars and bikes who brake in the middle of a turn cause they entered too fast.
- Riders who use the wrong lane position and complain about being cut off.
Example, i was in my cage the other day and passed a rider in the left lane (flow of traffic) but this guy was on the left side of the left lane so completely in my mirrors blind spot, not only that but, he was also perfectly behind my b pillar. Had I not known that he was there in the first place, would have ended up cutting him off.
- Riders who weave all over their lane, so you can never position your bike behind them.
- People in cars and bikes who brake in the middle of a turn cause they entered too fast.
Closed course, professional rider I would agree.
But when a corolla locks up his breaks in front of you with no notice 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to brake in time (Regardless of bike)
Ok, maybe you've come up behind me in traffic.
I will weave in my lane when I see a rider approaching from behind.
I have had too many bad experiences with riders coming up behind and riding beside me or crowding me.
I will weave around in my lane to make the other rider uncomfortable, so that they no longer wish to be behind me, and to make sure that they do not ride too close to me.
Even if traffic comes to a complete stop, I have no interest in talking to the other rider. They tend to be jerks and cut into my lane, and do other stupid stuff, just because I said hi to them.
I will weave in my lane when I see a rider approaching from behind.
I have had too many bad experiences with riders coming up behind and riding beside me or crowding me.
I will weave around in my lane to make the other rider uncomfortable, so that they no longer wish to be behind me, and to make sure that they do not ride too close to me.
Even if traffic comes to a complete stop, I have no interest in talking to the other rider. They tend to be jerks and cut into my lane, and do other stupid stuff, just because I said hi to them.
Nice attitude. Chump. I got a garbage bag with your name written on it!
conundrum
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I still remember years back before I got into riding, I was driving along at around the limit (residential-ish/light commercial area), where 2 lanes merged down into 1. I was in the actual (continuing) lane, and at the very end of the merge lane a sportsbike screams past me (basically splitting me and the curb), cuts in front of me then brakes down to 20 for an upcoming corner I was planning on taking around 50-60. I still remember it to this day as I likely ended up about an inch off his back tire considering he essentially brake checked me. After all this, he rides out the corner around 10-20km/h, spins himself around, flips me off, then takes off at about 140-160 in a 50 or 60 zone.
Since I've started riding, it is pretty easy to see all the different personalities of riders out there. I always considering riding a 'calculated' risk as I ride like everything else out there can kill me in an instant, don't typically go 'all-in' when taking corners if I can't pretty much see through them, etc. Not all people thinks this way, and it shows by those who squeeze bikes into spaces barely big enough to fit, or will dive into corners at triple the posted limit when they can't even see what's on the other side (or if it's a decreasing radius corner that will $*#@ them).
Since I've started riding, it is pretty easy to see all the different personalities of riders out there. I always considering riding a 'calculated' risk as I ride like everything else out there can kill me in an instant, don't typically go 'all-in' when taking corners if I can't pretty much see through them, etc. Not all people thinks this way, and it shows by those who squeeze bikes into spaces barely big enough to fit, or will dive into corners at triple the posted limit when they can't even see what's on the other side (or if it's a decreasing radius corner that will $*#@ them).
From the measure of complete incident avoidance, on a real world highway, how relevant is 60mph to 0? I will wager 60 to 30 is more important, plus having somewhere to go and ability to get there.
How about the reaction times? Of course, there are none on these test tracks.
conundrum
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I think he was your 'classical' teenage squid who can only ride fast in straight lines...and given how he cut me off/split up the shoulder and then immediately brake-checked me to 10km/h, potentially already a statistic (was a number of years ago).
You loose all credibility when you say you are afraid for your LIFE protecting your family when you in return try to kill somone else's family member and take their LIFE by running them over! .
..the problem with the world is there too many SISSY BOYS like you driving around thinking you're hard! and not willing to shed blood, sweat or tears for anything these days.
..i doubt, you would even open your mouth to a guy who cut you off in a coffee line or while walking downtown in rush hour, i have been hit by a truck and was paralized and spent more then 30 grand & 2 years in rehab, seeing a shrink, while needing the help and will of God to recover, while the driver got away with it all, flying through a parking lot with over 100 people, why because it was on private property where i was riding my cycle and he could not be charged, and the kid who hit me was the type that only cared about his truck not me when i was lying dead on the ground ( i saw the otherside and "he" saved my life and gave me a second chance at life).... people actually ran to the scene called the cops and others not him, he would have ran off, but after i recovered in my mind i forgave that scumbag because i knew he would get his one day. SO F YOUR RUNNING BIKERS OVER ATTITUDE buddy and everyone on earth who feels the same way. If you run over a biker, your kid will grow up to be a biker who will get run over by the bikers kid who will be driving a huge cage...karma.
Im also the type of guy who stood up for a girl i knew in college, after a party some guys were trying to attack this girl, knowing i was too drunk to defend her, and campus security was hiding/pusssies, cops were out busy chasing bikers doing wheelies, while her brother stood there doing nothing i went and helped her, even though i got beat to inches of my life by 6-7 sober football sized guys, they all ran away after seeing they went too far, thats what a REAL man does to protect the people he loves, be willing to GIVE YOUR LIFE UP for them to protect them, not willing to take someones life instead, that would make you equally as stupid or bad, but i know most people like you are selfish and fear things, the type to give up your liberty for security, so when you come across a guy like me on the street, who is not afraid to die, willing to die for others and believes in God with all his might, that'll be the day you find out how SOFT you are tough guy! even if you run me over, i will get back up...like i did before, only to become stronger then before mnetally and phyzically, you better pray you don't run into a biker or person who is like this.
See if you knew anything about righteousness, had a proper up bringing, and got your azz beat, and knew anything about God rather then try to act like him, you would try to live like him knowing these things. With power comes curruption, with absolute power comes absolute curruption, the big cages your in makes you think you have power, the more powerful you feel the less powerful in real life you are.
as for the nonsense of that bikers are careless because the way they ride, put a go pro in your car or truck front back and to the sides and drive around GTA without BREAKING ONE SINGLE law or by law, then come talk, and notice not one driver follows the law around you either! most bikers break laws because the cagers don't follow those laws in the first place and it would hinder bike saftey by following the laws, and if drivers didn't brake laws in the first places, bikers would not need to ride like flies to avoid all the dangers, toronto is so bad, that if you follow sensible riding in some instances because of so many impatient cagers, the biker has a better chance surviving driving around quick, filtering, taking short cuts etc. and sometimes with a decent cager crowd the rider rides sensibly, riders have to adapt to the cagers around them, and it pisses most bikers off when they are following the rules or want to and cagers come on their tail and cell phoes weaving, and all only then to blame bikers at the end if something happens...with the biker going from having a nice calm cruise to now ripping around trying to get away from ever scum bag on 4 wheels.
At the end of the day if a biker goes that far to break check you, most likely you started the shiiit! no one starts shiit for NO REASON!
u mad ?
