There are yellow lines on the edge of the track to tell u when to brake I believe.
Tmp, does anyone know who was taking pictures on the infield Sept !5?
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I was like that too until you come into a corner too hot and you're too stubborn to go off track. Just turn and you'll be surprised how well the tires will stick for you. That'll convince you that you can take the corners quicker.To ZX600,
Thanks for that info on braking markers etc...
Really good for this newbie to read
I lack confidence in taking turns quicker, I don't think I'll make them which in the end already sets me up for disaster
I have to work on my 'mental' fitness for next year.
I don't think it's the bike. Then again it appears it has seen better days. Where's the gauge cluster?Because when I use more than 50% I get a real insane shudder from the front. Not sure what'll happen if I squeeze harder, maybe it'll skip the front tire, I dunno
Gauge cluster is waiting for installation of fairing stay
I didn't think it safe to ride around with a new OEM fairing stay cause it has pointy bits that stick out (where the mirrors bolt to, etc.). I have all the parts to rebuild it but figured I'd wait till track season was over before I installed new headlights and oem bodywork 
The shudder problem has happened since the first day I put it on the track (way way before the crash), more noticeable after I upgraded to the Brembo RCS 19 master probably because I'm using more braking force
Not to be Captain Obvious, but have you checked the run out on the rotors?
The shudder in that video is pretty severe. I wouldn't even try to track a bike that was behaving like that under braking.
The shudder in that video is pretty severe. I wouldn't even try to track a bike that was behaving like that under braking.
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Short answer is yes, TMP has white hash marks as their brake markers. When you get into proper circuits they usually have a count down system - Calabogie has signs that count down 3, 2, 1 where if memory serves correct Mosport uses cones - three cones, then two, then one. If you never rode a certain track, they are a good place to start.
All tracks will have some sort of markers at the end of the straights, but to be honest I very rarely even notice they are there. If you are looking at the marker, you are not looking far enough ahead to where you want to be (especially the ones painted on the track). I didnt even notice that Calabogie has signs that indicate the turn number and what direction the turn goes until someone mentioned it in another thread a few weeks ago... and I have rode that track more than any other.
Yep. When my bike was into John Sharrard I had him check the rotors. No uneven pad buildup and the runout was perfect
It only does it when I apply a lot of braking force, so if I just ride around and brake like a pussy it's fine
I'm sure if I leave it like that there will be one time I really need them and I won't have them, like me almost rear ending that RSV4 guy in turn 1
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Yep. When my bike was into John Sharrard I had him check the rotors. No uneven pad buildup and the runout was perfect
Not intending to hack on John's work, but I don't buy it. I had exactly the same thing happening on my bike and it was a warped rotor. I presume you don't have spare wheels since the obvious test would be to try another front wheel. The front end of a sport bike doesn't shake for no reason. If your head bearings were loose you'd have severe handling issues too. Maybe you do and that's why you couldn't make turn 1
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I've got a spare rear but haven't had luck tracking down a spare front. I can buy a new replacement from China for $289 but I don't think I wanna go that route. I was trying to find one with rotors so I could rule that out right away.Not intending to hack on John's work, but I don't buy it. I had exactly the same thing happening on my bike and it was a warped rotor. I presume you don't have spare wheels since the obvious test would be to try another front wheel. The front end of a sport bike doesn't shake for no reason. If your had bearings were loose you'd have severe handling issues too. Maybe you do and that's why you couldn't make turn 1
As corsara said brake markers can be anything. I used the wall at TMP, get passed it and brake, there's marks on the asphalt into 2, pick one, use things that aren't going to take your eyes off where your going, orange cones show up quite well in your peripheral vision. The only way you can try and go deeper is to know where you were on the last lap....that sounds dirty.
Why not buy track bodywork?Gauge cluster is waiting for installation of fairing stay
The shudder problem has happened since the first day I put it on the track (way way before the crash), more noticeable after I upgraded to the Brembo RCS 19 master probably because I'm using more braking force
I got a deal off Cherry Picker for all brand spankin new OEM bodywork for $300 so I couldn't really pass it up. It'll be going back to a street bike for next year. I can get race replica china track bodywork for $500 shipped or can get the ProFiber stuff or whatever it's called for $750 (primer only).
Armour bodies falls into that price category. China stuff tends to be heavy as ****. Even Hotbodies is better.
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You can use the track established markers or find your own - For example at Mosport there was this patch of asphalt on turn 4 I used as my turning point, this year that patch is gone and that kind of screwed me over a bit, so it is preferable to use the track markers. Or maybe it was still there and I didn't realized it while going OHHHHHHHHHHH SHIITTTTTTTTTTTTT
Ok, I understand now. Honestly, I always thought those white markers before turns 1, 2 and 6 at TMP were just some remains from the track construction process, or from its previous function as a plane landing strip... not that I couldn't or didn't use them as markers, I just didn't know they were actually meant to be some base initial guideline for where you're supposed to start braking.
You guys mention markers/cones/etc starting from 3-2-1... how do you find these markers working out for you, which one do you use at your skill levels if you remember? (just prepping myself for the upcoming Saturday, nothing better than a good plan for what to do there and try new things)
You guys mention markers/cones/etc starting from 3-2-1... how do you find these markers working out for you, which one do you use at your skill levels if you remember? (just prepping myself for the upcoming Saturday, nothing better than a good plan for what to do there and try new things
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Let's be clear, the lines don't tell you where to brake (every rider and every bike is different!). They're just fixed visual reference points.
What does all this have to do with who was taking pictures in the infield on Sept 15? I came to this thread looking for cool track pics! haha
hahaWhat does all this have to do with who was taking pictures in the infield on Sept 15? I came to this thread looking for cool track pics!
See post #7, how dare you saying that ain't cool
Regarding hpvchewy's brake problems: when I tried your brake lever in the pits a few weeks ago, it felt very weird when squeezed hard---there was this gurgling sound coming from the master, and it was also felt on the lever. I don't know how common this is, but my Accossato, as well as my previously installed OEM, and also my previous bike's master cylinder never made such sounds at all. Just noodling here, I'm not saying that's the problem, but could it be? I know you bled the hell out of those lines, but maybe the master is faulty or something?
