Obviously he didn't crash on purpose, but the flags are there for a reason, and not paying attention isn't a very good excuse. This isn't the first time this has happened to Marquez either, with negative consequences.
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Obviously he didn't crash on purpose, but the flags are there for a reason, and not paying attention isn't a very good excuse. This isn't the first time this has happened to Marquez either, with negative consequences.
FriendlyFoe
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I hope you're saying that having raced and knowing how easy it is to miss a flag when you're that focused. At the pro level there may be no excuse for that, but it's still funny when so called "arm chair quarterbacks" are so quick to judge. I know i've missed flags before, but i ride track days and have done a couple race rounds, so i have a bit more of an excuse. They really are easy to miss when you're trying not to kill yourself...all while basically trying to kill yourself lol
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What other time did he miss a flag?
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/173986/1/moto2_marquez_punished_for_wilairot_collision.html
He didn't miss it, he ignored it.
Watching for flags are a good way to improve your chances of not dying!
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FriendlyFoe
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EDIT: okay way to make **** confusing.
Way to post a link from 2011 that has nothing to do with what happened this weekend and confusing the hell out of me lol.
So marquez missed a yellow flag, i'll say it again, you try racing around at 180 mph backing a bike in and also paying attention to the side lines. Unless you've done it dont be so quick to judge.
Sounds like marquez got 2 penalty points, and you need 4 before they matter. So whateves yo! He has a dislocated shoulder as a result and took someone else out as well, chalk it up to another lesson learned.
Way to post a link from 2011 that has nothing to do with what happened this weekend and confusing the hell out of me lol.
So marquez missed a yellow flag, i'll say it again, you try racing around at 180 mph backing a bike in and also paying attention to the side lines. Unless you've done it dont be so quick to judge.
Sounds like marquez got 2 penalty points, and you need 4 before they matter. So whateves yo! He has a dislocated shoulder as a result and took someone else out as well, chalk it up to another lesson learned.
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I disagree, and I can't remember seeing it happen before either. I don't even look for flags, they find me every time. Not to say it wasn't an honest mistake by MM, just that it's a very strange mistake. And then to go ahead and crash at that very corner...?
redridernl
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There is a huge amount of runoff in that part of the track which puts the marshalls way out of line of sight. Unless you've raced at a similar circuit, ie: world class, outside of Canada, you have nothing to compare it to. The second point that is several people crashed in that corner throughout the weekend and many times in the past due to lack of heat on the left side of the tire combined with bumps near the edge of the track.
It was a weird crash. He was off the bike way before the turn, and he wasn't even in any type of a line to enter that turn. I've dislocated my shoulder, and I can vouch for how painful it is to ride with. Fortunately MM did have some medical help, and also his race suit would of been really good at keeping that shoulder stable, just would of been a nightmare putting it on. As long as he is not doing any motions involving raising his arm over his head such as a windmill motion, he should be pretty good.
Ya fair enough looking at the on-board I don't see any flags, and I'm actively looking for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsRPubFXSco
The onboard video quality isn't very good, so it would be hard to see. The video also only shows about 10 seconds of riding before the crash, but Cal was down for ~20 before Marquez came sliding in, so he would have been a ways down the Hangar straight.
Oh well, I guess we're just all armchair critics. I'm willing to accept that race direction made a good call.
Did anyone see the latest set of WSBK races?
Yeah, I'd say it's pretty foolish to think that Marquez intentionally ignored the flags. It was a race warm-up, the last thing you'd want to do is crash, and setting a flying lap isn't going to net anything anyway. He was just running his course. If he had gone down at another corner, where no other bike was already sitting in wait, I'm sure the reaction would have been far less negative.
Whether it oversight or negligence, he remains on top of the charts because he does one thing really, really well.
Whether it oversight or negligence, he remains on top of the charts because he does one thing really, really well.
Im pretty sure marquez was riding "on board" and wasn't watching the race through televisions like the rest of us lol
BTW Marquez is a machine
FriendlyFoe
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Nah you're the only one here with the gall to criticize one of the top riders in the world. Comments from everyone else amount to giving him the benefit of the doubt because you have no idea what it's like.
Some big shoes to fill:
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/luca marini wild card at Misano
Aside form that Yamaha is bringing the 'seamless' transmission this weekend, and Tech3 renewed it partnership with Yamaha for another 2 years.
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/luca marini wild card at Misano
Aside form that Yamaha is bringing the 'seamless' transmission this weekend, and Tech3 renewed it partnership with Yamaha for another 2 years.
Pretty cool to hear Jorge answer who is the best ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HATroE1nM1s
I don't agree, that is their sport, they should know who they are.
I know who Pele is and watch a lot of his games, still do once in a while, same for Maradona, Platini etc... and anyone that likes, plays or follows soccer probably knows who they are
I know who Pele is and watch a lot of his games, still do once in a while, same for Maradona, Platini etc... and anyone that likes, plays or follows soccer probably knows who they are
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No doubt he is a very talented rider.
MM strikes me as someone that will be involved in something tragic sooner or later.
Perhaps he will calm down a bit as he gets older but for now he just seems to have this aura of nothing can happen to me and gravity does not apply to me. There is a certain recklessness about him that leaves me saying this is not going to end well for this guy or worse someone else. I hope I am wrong of course.
MM strikes me as someone that will be involved in something tragic sooner or later.
Perhaps he will calm down a bit as he gets older but for now he just seems to have this aura of nothing can happen to me and gravity does not apply to me. There is a certain recklessness about him that leaves me saying this is not going to end well for this guy or worse someone else. I hope I am wrong of course.
