Decline of group rides (quantity) and how do you cope with it?

Just FYI, lines on the road mean nothing as far as passing is concerned.

Strictly speaking, this is correct. The HTA makes no mention of dashed or solid lines and their relationship to whether you are allowed to pass or not. The wording in the HTA refers to a certain distance from a curve, hill, etc but makes no mention of the pavement lines.

Having said that ... plenty of other jurisdictions do use the lines as the law, and most drivers think they are the law, so if you don't want to tick people off, it's best to follow them. Also, with the prevalence of cell phones, it's best not to tick people off.

Generally, I try not to pass cars over the center line unless they are below the speed limit, and only in dashed-line areas. Less chance of phone calls to the cops that way. Those who have ridden with me have seen my usual technique ... slow down and drop back behind the car on straights when curves are approaching, then catch up through the corners. It avoids passing the cars, if there is a car coming in the other direction it makes sure they are not over the center line, if there is an approaching cop then the cop's radar will see that car's speed first.
 
One other thing regarding passing. If there is a sign that says no passing, THAT is the law.
 
One other thing regarding passing. If there is a sign that says no passing, THAT is the law.

Holy **** at your post above, I did not know that. So cops CAN'T give you a ticket for passing through double solids?!
 
Yellow lines are suggestions.

Double yellow is you should not pass, doesn't mean you cannot
 
Neither say you can not pass. Yellow lines are suggestions. White lines (i.e. passing on the right shoulder is a no no and illegal) are the law.
 
Just FYI, lines on the road mean nothing as far as passing is concerned.

Many people don't reaize the lines are advisory in this case. They mean nothing with respect to passing unless there is a sign at the side of the road saying they mean something. But all the laws with respect to passing always apply. For example no passing within a certain distane from a train track, from the crest of a hill, made in saftey, etc.) Having said al that I would be releuctant to pass on a double solid line when a police car is in sight.


..Tom
 
Neither say you can not pass. Yellow lines are suggestions. White lines (i.e. passing on the right shoulder is a no no and illegal) are the law.

Ontario law says you can pass on a paved shoulder when the car in front of you is making a left turn.

..Tom
 
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Originally Posted by 6iraffe [/COLOR]

2) You decided to take a couple of guys in the front in Bala where we shouldn't have and started to pass cars illegally putting yours, other riders and cars at risk. Because of this, cops get called and the whole group had to take **** from cops as people complained 20+ riders doing stupid things.


again like i said some are spewing inaccurate facts making claims that i was illegally passing vehicles.

just saying some tend to embellish facts which i have been calling people out on.
if you want to be credible just don't make things up.

unless you want to just join team pegasus.

thanks brian for clarifying.
 
WarpTiger, never ridden with you and I have no personal opinion on you, I imagine that you are a skilled rider, but whetever happened, some people found objectionable, right or wrong, but sometimes the horse just has to die, everyone needs to stop beating it.

You don't need to like their opinions, nor do they need to like yours. Nobody is going to post a "oh *****! you we're right" comment here

...All the dancing gifs are giving me a headache
 
WarpTiger, never ridden with you and I have no personal opinion on you, I imagine that you are a skilled rider, but whetever happened, some people found objectionable, right or wrong, but sometimes the horse just has to die, everyone needs to stop beating it.

You don't need to like their opinions, nor do they need to like yours. Nobody is going to post a "oh *****! you we're right" comment here

...All the dancing gifs are giving me a headache


i'm going to have to agree with you on this.

i'll leave it at that. and be done with this thread.
 
Ontario law says you can pass on a paved shoulder when the car in front of you is making a left turn.

..Tom

I'm glad this came up. Driving to Georgetown yesterday along Steeles I noticed at a couple side roads there is a sign saying not to drive on the shoulder. They have these signs because people turning left can take a long time sometimes and the shoulder is gravel.

So what's the actual law regarding it, can I pass using the shoulder because the law says I can, or can't I because a sign says I can't?
 
I'm glad this came up. Driving to Georgetown yesterday along Steeles I noticed at a couple side roads there is a sign saying not to drive on the shoulder. They have these signs because people turning left can take a long time sometimes and the shoulder is gravel.

So what's the actual law regarding it, can I pass using the shoulder because the law says I can, or can't I because a sign says I can't?

I guess you should not because of the sign, Its like no turning on red unless otherwise posted.
 
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