He doesn't have an illegal bike in Moto GP, so chances are you won't see him repeating that.
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He doesn't have an illegal bike in Moto GP, so chances are you won't see him repeating that.
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Marc Marquez Accused Of Doing Something ... Legal?
Submitted by David Emmett on Mon, 2012-11-05 15:27
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The Moto2 paddock in Phillip Island was awash with rumors of cheating, and not for the first time. There have been accusations of cheating by Marc Marquez' Monlau Competicion team running around the paddock for most of the two years the young Spaniard has been racing in Moto2, accusations which MotoMatters.com has been reporting on since early this year.
The rumors in Australia centered round illegal manipulation of the spec HRC ECU fitted to all Moto2 machines. The German magazine Speedweek suggested that Marquez' team had been able to load an illegal map on to the ECU, capable of overriding the quickshifter function and preventing fuel from being cut when the quickshifter was used. This, Speedweek claimed citing an unnamed technician, is what the Monlau team had been doing, and this explained his superior acceleration. The advantage offered was that by not cutting the fuel injection, the air/fuel mixture was much better directly after a gear change, improving throttle pickup and helping to explain some of Marquez' advantage in acceleration. The fuel map, Speedweek alleged, would be loaded onto the ECU before the start of a race, and would then automatically erase itself when the engine was switched off.
MotoMatters.com contacted MotoGP Race Director Mike Webb for a response to these allegations. Webb prefaced his remarks saying that he had not read the allegations made in Speedweek, as he was not a German speaker, but was aware of the contents of the Speedweek report after being approached by the magazine's editor, Günther Wiesinger. The allegations, Webb told MotoMatters.com, were in part incorrect and in part irrelevant. The accusations that the software of the ECU was being overwritten and then wiped when the engine was switched off were wrong, Webb said. "I am confident in the information from my technical experts (including the ECU suppliers) that the alleged rewriting of the ECU software, and then magically wiping it again is not occurring," he told MotoMatters.com.
As to the quickshifter strategy Marquez' team is accused of employing, Webb said that it was not necessary to hack the ECU to achieve this. "Quick-shifters are 'free' [not defined as a spec part in the regulations - MM], they are deliberately not included in the official definition of the Moto2 engine, so the team is free to choose their own solution. Whether they choose to use the quick-shift strategies included in the ECU is up to them," Webb said. "In fact no manipulation of ECU software is necessary in order to use a non-Honda quick-shifter, which may or may not use the fuel cut strategies available in the ECU." The quickshifter used by Marquez' team had been submitted for approval to the Technical Director, HRC and engine supplier Geo Tech for inspection at the beginning of the season, as had the systems used by all the other teams. No irregularities had been found in any of the systems.
The accusations being leveled against Marquez and his team appear to consist of doing something that is completely legal. The Monlau team maintain that they prepare Marquez' bike completely within the Moto2 rulebook. When asked about the allegations, a spokesperson for the team told MotoMatters.com "the best they can do is to open the bike". No doubt Marquez' Catalunya CX Suter machine will be subject to a full inspection at the last race of the year this weekend at Valencia.
Source:
http://www.speedweek.ch/Moto2/news/29432/Schwerer-Verdacht-gegen-Marquez...
http://www.racing4fun.at/beitrag-detailansicht/datum/2012/10/31/marc-mar...
Marc Uses the HM quickshifter which cuts electricity to the coil and has nothing to do with gas
Submitted by David Emmett on Mon, 2012-11-05 15:27
in
The Moto2 paddock in Phillip Island was awash with rumors of cheating, and not for the first time. There have been accusations of cheating by Marc Marquez' Monlau Competicion team running around the paddock for most of the two years the young Spaniard has been racing in Moto2, accusations which MotoMatters.com has been reporting on since early this year.
The rumors in Australia centered round illegal manipulation of the spec HRC ECU fitted to all Moto2 machines. The German magazine Speedweek suggested that Marquez' team had been able to load an illegal map on to the ECU, capable of overriding the quickshifter function and preventing fuel from being cut when the quickshifter was used. This, Speedweek claimed citing an unnamed technician, is what the Monlau team had been doing, and this explained his superior acceleration. The advantage offered was that by not cutting the fuel injection, the air/fuel mixture was much better directly after a gear change, improving throttle pickup and helping to explain some of Marquez' advantage in acceleration. The fuel map, Speedweek alleged, would be loaded onto the ECU before the start of a race, and would then automatically erase itself when the engine was switched off.
MotoMatters.com contacted MotoGP Race Director Mike Webb for a response to these allegations. Webb prefaced his remarks saying that he had not read the allegations made in Speedweek, as he was not a German speaker, but was aware of the contents of the Speedweek report after being approached by the magazine's editor, Günther Wiesinger. The allegations, Webb told MotoMatters.com, were in part incorrect and in part irrelevant. The accusations that the software of the ECU was being overwritten and then wiped when the engine was switched off were wrong, Webb said. "I am confident in the information from my technical experts (including the ECU suppliers) that the alleged rewriting of the ECU software, and then magically wiping it again is not occurring," he told MotoMatters.com.
As to the quickshifter strategy Marquez' team is accused of employing, Webb said that it was not necessary to hack the ECU to achieve this. "Quick-shifters are 'free' [not defined as a spec part in the regulations - MM], they are deliberately not included in the official definition of the Moto2 engine, so the team is free to choose their own solution. Whether they choose to use the quick-shift strategies included in the ECU is up to them," Webb said. "In fact no manipulation of ECU software is necessary in order to use a non-Honda quick-shifter, which may or may not use the fuel cut strategies available in the ECU." The quickshifter used by Marquez' team had been submitted for approval to the Technical Director, HRC and engine supplier Geo Tech for inspection at the beginning of the season, as had the systems used by all the other teams. No irregularities had been found in any of the systems.
The accusations being leveled against Marquez and his team appear to consist of doing something that is completely legal. The Monlau team maintain that they prepare Marquez' bike completely within the Moto2 rulebook. When asked about the allegations, a spokesperson for the team told MotoMatters.com "the best they can do is to open the bike". No doubt Marquez' Catalunya CX Suter machine will be subject to a full inspection at the last race of the year this weekend at Valencia.
Source:
http://www.speedweek.ch/Moto2/news/29432/Schwerer-Verdacht-gegen-Marquez...
http://www.racing4fun.at/beitrag-detailansicht/datum/2012/10/31/marc-mar...
Marc Uses the HM quickshifter which cuts electricity to the coil and has nothing to do with gas
redridernl
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He never had an illegal bike in moto 2 either. People love to come up with reasons why they're not as good as someone else but it usually comes down to rider ability and nothing else.
He never had an illegal bike in moto 2 either. People love to come up with reasons why they're not as good as someone else but it usually comes down to rider ability and nothing else.
No doubt about, i like Marquez a lot. Deeply impressed with his talent and his ability, he will be the bench mark for other riders for several years to come.
But i am also not blind. His bike was not equal in a spec series.
redridernl
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It was investigated and they found nothing. End of story. The other teams wouldn't have let it go if there was really something going on. The fact that he's able to hang with Lorenzo & Pedrosa should prove that he wouldn't need to cheat.
I'm fully aware they didn't find anything. Still my opinion doesn't change. I don't hate the guy...relax, breathe.
that is true, there is no way he had that much more "get up and go" than the others
Either way, the kid has some cojones
redridernl
Well-known member
Spanish rider+ Repsol (Spain)+ Dorna (also Spanish) = the glove does not fit.
Well they did change the rookie rule for him but he's been penalized in the past as well so I think it all balances out. Rossi has gotten way more favoritism than anyone and he's not Spanish... a cash cow but not Spanish.
What's your prevision for the winner this year? Should we maybe keep track for bragging right? ;-p
redridernl
Well-known member
Lorenzo is the safe bet. He has the speed and consistency. Unless the top 3 have season ending injuries the only other possibilities are Pedrosa & Marquez. Even though Pedrosa is in the lead, as far as odds go he's a longshot based on his previous performance. He has always been close but can't quite make it.
I'll take Marquez even though I don't think he has better than a 35% chance of taking it.
I'll take Marquez even though I don't think he has better than a 35% chance of taking it.
My guess is:
1. Pedrosa
2. Lorenzo
3. Marquez
However, this is close enough that a single mistake would take the rider out of the running. Pedrosa seems to be on form, and if the 2014 Honda gets rolled out, it's going to be serious business. Marquez could spoil his day a few times, though. Lorenzo is on form as well, but the bike itself isn't as good as the Honda.
I'll stick by itMotoGP Sepang Test 2013
My prediction for this year
Ok guys, just copy the list and add your name to the bottom. No changing please!
I think Jorge will take the win again, but I'm gonna go with Pedrosa.
MotoGP 2013 Predicitions
redridernl - Marquez
Mr. K - Pedrosa
ZX600 - Marquez
victorbrca - Pedrosa
I think Jorge will take the win again, but I'm gonna go with Pedrosa.
MotoGP 2013 Predicitions
redridernl - Marquez
Mr. K - Pedrosa
ZX600 - Marquez
victorbrca - Pedrosa
1. 26: It's his year. Amazing rider, with the best bike on the grid
2. 99: Engine reliability will force at least one pit-lane start
3. 46: He will come to grips (no pun intended) with setup and qualifying and 93, although formidable, still has mistakes to make and experience to gain in the premier class
2. 99: Engine reliability will force at least one pit-lane start
3. 46: He will come to grips (no pun intended) with setup and qualifying and 93, although formidable, still has mistakes to make and experience to gain in the premier class
