Front wheel lifting and violently wobbling

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2WET said:
Just because you don't understand what im talking about dosen't mean its misinformation...

also i don't mean to sound like a dick, but im fairly confident, i could run laps around you on the street without even braking a sweat. Fact is most of you here are posers who park at meets with your shiny bikes, and all these rider error replacement parts like dampers, dampers are not for tank slappers, again they are for extreme high speed fork stability, like GP1 etc.

all these dampers and HESD and technical enhancements for the generic public are for people whos automotive/riding skill level is moderate at best, these are just tools to help prevent less accidents from people who can't ride like pros, these devices don't make your a better or safer rider.

you think sport bikes are the only ones that can have a tank slapper? even 50cc scooters can have it, a tank slapper is a sighn of two things, you are a noob, or you don't maintain your bike, learning from that and never letting that happen again is better then buying a damper. which again is for high speed fork stability, and not tank slappers. a tank slapper will even happen on a bike with a damper, only difference on a bike with a damper its nearly impossible to be incontrol as the damper takes over and does a shittty job of the tank slap.

When you're at my skill level these kinds of devices actually reduces the riders capabilities then improve, because these are preventative measures not devices that improve skill.

You are just like every other person out there, you see the glass half empty, while i see it half full. Yes the damper takes in violent head shake from front wheel wobbles, but you CANNOT control a damper or the wobble once it takes over, where as a rider who rely's on his own skill will never have wobble because he knows how to control it and if it does happen, he/she can control how its taken out, with a damper you CANNOT do that, you have to let the damper do all the work, and a damper is not built for tank slappers, its built to be optimal while keeping forks stable at very high speeds. I've seen $600 dampers fail with extremely violent headk shake where the compression failed, because people with such devices ride like *** and rough never realiseing how bad their riding style is while the damper is taking in all the abuse and never letting the rider know how crap their riding is till it finally fails, and rider crashes and talks about tank slapper. If you knew how to ride right and learned how to NOT cause the bike to react with a tank slapper you would never experience it.



Fact will always remain, skill > everything else.
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This is the most rediculas pile of garbadge I've read on this forum in a while.
 
2WET said:
Just because you don't understand what im talking about dosen't mean its misinformation...

also i don't mean to sound like a dick, but im fairly confident, i could run laps around you on the street without even braking a sweat. Fact is most of you here are posers who park at meets with your shiny bikes, and all these rider error replacement parts like dampers, dampers are not for tank slappers, again they are for extreme high speed fork stability, like GP1 etc.

all these dampers and HESD and technical enhancements for the generic public are for people whos automotive/riding skill level is moderate at best, these are just tools to help prevent less accidents from people who can't ride like pros, these devices don't make your a better or safer rider.

you think sport bikes are the only ones that can have a tank slapper? even 50cc scooters can have it, a tank slapper is a sighn of two things, you are a noob, or you don't maintain your bike, learning from that and never letting that happen again is better then buying a damper. which again is for high speed fork stability, and not tank slappers. a tank slapper will even happen on a bike with a damper, only difference on a bike with a damper its nearly impossible to be incontrol as the damper takes over and does a shittty job of the tank slap.

When you're at my skill level these kinds of devices actually reduces the riders capabilities then improve, because these are preventative measures not devices that improve skill.

You are just like every other person out there, you see the glass half empty, while i see it half full. Yes the damper takes in violent head shake from front wheel wobbles, but you CANNOT control a damper or the wobble once it takes over, where as a rider who rely's on his own skill will never have wobble because he knows how to control it and if it does happen, he/she can control how its taken out, with a damper you CANNOT do that, you have to let the damper do all the work, and a damper is not built for tank slappers, its built to be optimal while keeping forks stable at very high speeds. I've seen $600 dampers fail with extremely violent headk shake where the compression failed, because people with such devices ride like *** and rough never realiseing how bad their riding style is while the damper is taking in all the abuse and never letting the rider know how crap their riding is till it finally fails, and rider crashes and talks about tank slapper. If you knew how to ride right and learned how to NOT cause the bike to react with a tank slapper you would never experience it.



Fact will always remain, skill > everything else.
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Freddie Spencer talks about some bikes that need steering dampers in this months Cycle World magazine..... You should send a letter to them since Freddie is in error!

Lol
 
Also call Marco Melandri, he was having some good head shake in qualifying yesterday, I'm sure you could give him a few pointers.
 
2WET said:
also i don't mean to sound like a dick, but im fairly confident, i could run laps around you on the street without even braking a sweat.
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This may very well be my new favorite quote on GTAM. It is an excellent mix of false modesty, inflated ego and mixed metaphors
 
2WET said:
Just because you don't understand what im talking about dosen't mean its misinformation...

also i don't mean to sound like a dick, but im fairly confident, i could run laps around you on the street without even braking a sweat. Fact is most of you here are posers who park at meets with your shiny bikes, and all these rider error replacement parts like dampers, dampers are not for tank slappers, again they are for extreme high speed fork stability, like GP1 etc.

all these dampers and HESD and technical enhancements for the generic public are for people whos automotive/riding skill level is moderate at best, these are just tools to help prevent less accidents from people who can't ride like pros, these devices don't make your a better or safer rider.

you think sport bikes are the only ones that can have a tank slapper? even 50cc scooters can have it, a tank slapper is a sighn of two things, you are a noob, or you don't maintain your bike, learning from that and never letting that happen again is better then buying a damper. which again is for high speed fork stability, and not tank slappers. a tank slapper will even happen on a bike with a damper, only difference on a bike with a damper its nearly impossible to be incontrol as the damper takes over and does a shittty job of the tank slap.

When you're at my skill level these kinds of devices actually reduces the riders capabilities then improve, because these are preventative measures not devices that improve skill.

You are just like every other person out there, you see the glass half empty, while i see it half full. Yes the damper takes in violent head shake from front wheel wobbles, but you CANNOT control a damper or the wobble once it takes over, where as a rider who rely's on his own skill will never have wobble because he knows how to control it and if it does happen, he/she can control how its taken out, with a damper you CANNOT do that, you have to let the damper do all the work, and a damper is not built for tank slappers, its built to be optimal while keeping forks stable at very high speeds. I've seen $600 dampers fail with extremely violent headk shake where the compression failed, because people with such devices ride like *** and rough never realiseing how bad their riding style is while the damper is taking in all the abuse and never letting the rider know how crap their riding is till it finally fails, and rider crashes and talks about tank slapper. If you knew how to ride right and learned how to NOT cause the bike to react with a tank slapper you would never experience it.



Fact will always remain, skill > everything else.
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CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! :D

But not on the street since i enjoy my low insurance rates and i drive for a living.

Here is a link to track days at cayuga, lemme know which dates you will be there and we can put your theory to the test.

http://www.torontomotorsportspark.com/raceway/motorcycle_lapping.html

If you prefer another track in ontario lemme know which one and which date, i will make every effort to be there. Sundays work best for me, im not sure about you.
 
Paul1000RR said:
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! :D

But not on the street since i enjoy my low insurance rates and i drive for a living.

Here is a link to track days at cayuga, lemme know which dates you will be there and we can put your theory to the test.

http://www.torontomotorsportspark.com/raceway/motorcycle_lapping.html

If you prefer another track in ontario lemme know which one and which date, i will make every effort to be there. Sundays work best for me, im not sure about you.
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My guess 2Wet Ducks and hides.
 
This happened to me on the 250 before. Went WOT over un-even pavements and it happened. Didn't brake, gas, or fight back.
 
Since this is my thread - I'm the only person that hasn't yet forgotten about the 2WET vs Paul1000RR race-off..

Still waiting on times/dates so I can make arrangements/take time off work etc.

BTW - on the original topic of this thread, I found out this weekend what my problem was. I recently bought one of those expensive digital gauges and figured wth let's try it out (I KNOW I SHOULD BE CHECKING MY TIRE PRESSURE EVERY 23 SECONDS)... hadn't ridden my bike for a week... came downstairs to the garage and pushed the gauge in.. funny it reads 8 PSI.. must be broken.. let's try again.. 7.5 PSI.. godamn, now I gotta return it.. let me try my car.. 32psi...

I have a leak.

I remember riding a friends 300 and noticing how nimble and easy to turn in it was.. and it then hit me... I was riding a low pressure front tire this whole time.. once I filled it up, it felt EXACTLY like the 300.. dives right into corners.

So check your tire pressures folks... now I gotta decide whether to fill the tire up every week for the rest of the summer and get my 600 over the winter.. or invest in new tyres altogether.


Also I lost my expensive digital gauge somehow (I swear I put it in my rear seat cowl, it looked too big to fall through the body but who knows).

I'm a mess.
 
7.5 psi gives you best traction, brah #towtrucks4lyfe #youngmoney #lowpsitillIdie
 
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