OnAnySunday
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Ride like a stallion not a pony.
I have been cut off 3 times, road hours 5!
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Picua
Well-known member
+1.
Don't let that **** get to you. it will screw with your riding worse then anything if you overthink about that stuff.
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Welcome to the riding community. Pretty much every new rider experiences what you just experienced and learns that you can't be riding like how you were taught. Take experienced riders advice in this forum and no matter how many years people have been riding there is always something new to learn.
When you reached that enlightened stage you won't be cut off and if you do can only blame yourself.
When you reached that enlightened stage you won't be cut off and if you do can only blame yourself.
RichinOville
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I almost never ride the blocking position exclusively, if I am riding by myself. I ride in whatever part of the lane gives me the best view ahead and the most flexibility to get out of any trouble for the conditions. And never ever ride for any length of time in anybody's blind spot.
-Maverick-
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This is puzzling., why some riders get cut off, and others not? Personally, my bike tends to frighten cars and they can't get out of my way fast enough!
koma
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Probably not too puzzling.. people have different riding styles, varying ability to detect possible problems on the road, habits, visibility, etc.
RichinOville
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I seldom get cutoff for a couple of reasons. Partly, because I don't live in the GTA, so most of my roads are only 2 lanes. Then, when in an environment where the possibility exists, I ride accordingly and adjust to the conditions as they develop. Then, there is also the fact that I discovered my own personal driving quirk/defence. I absolutely hate driving/riding behind anyone regardless of the speed. I do not trust them to be looking as far down the road as I am to anticipate any dangers. So, I usually find that I am generally travelling faster than anyone else on the road, so that I can stay in front.
nightflex
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Here's another interesting fact that I'd like to add. I've been a speed junkie for a long time but in the last 7 months I have completely changed my driving habits and do 65 in a 60 zone and 110 on the highway. I just can't deal with the hassle anymore as I am getting older and lazier to fight each and every ticket. Plus trying to get my life in order so speeding needs to be curbed.
Ever since I have started doing the speed limit, on my bmw coupe, I have been cut off by even minivans. Yet I don't give into the chase and teaching them a lesson as I once would've. Personally, I feel that 80% of the people on the road don't have patience for the guy doing the speed limit or just slightly over. Regardless they aren't paying my insurance and speeding tickets so I have learned to ignored them, it's a painful process.
Speaking of motorcycles, I have been doing the same thing. As soon as I got on the bike I have made a commitment not to over speed at all. I have gone into 80-90 zone while I wasn't paying attention but mostly I keep a firm grip on the throttle and follow a consistent speed. This is just my theory that it may have something to do with people not having the patience of being behind a motorcycle or next to it getting road rage for me doing the speed limit.
The reason I share this is because I have personally come to believe that the initial reason why I started speeding in the first place when I was 16-17 was due to being scared of tailgaters and hanging in people's blind spots. By speeding up and staying away from a pack of cars, I have always felt safe and it has always allowed me to have more maneuverability. By speeding up I have often cleared myself traveling next to big hunk of metal that could make a mistake, I don't trust any drivers on the road from day 1.
Between me and GTAM, I feel fearful at posted speed limits and being on the road from what I have experienced in the past 7-8 months. Now I just try to get to my destination as safely as I can and by being overly attentive while driving, its exhausting. I have never had any accidents, claims etc etc but just speeding tickets all the way up to HTA 172 (which as I have previously discussed in another post was officers error and he didn't know the posted speed limit, calling it 50 when it was 60 - doing 101 in 50 zone, as opposed to 60 zone).
I don't think I am the best driver on the road or that I am anymore special than the next guy but I follow my gut when it comes to my safety and I pay attention even at high speeds. Yet, the system has finally forced me to give up my gut feeling to be safe and follow the robotic pattern. I have a feeling that unless a motorcycle is traveling slightly faster than normal car speeds people can't take it and they try to share the lane with you because you are right next to them in that pack of cars traveling together.
Those that have never been cut off, have you noticed any of this?
Ever since I have started doing the speed limit, on my bmw coupe, I have been cut off by even minivans. Yet I don't give into the chase and teaching them a lesson as I once would've. Personally, I feel that 80% of the people on the road don't have patience for the guy doing the speed limit or just slightly over. Regardless they aren't paying my insurance and speeding tickets so I have learned to ignored them, it's a painful process.
Speaking of motorcycles, I have been doing the same thing. As soon as I got on the bike I have made a commitment not to over speed at all. I have gone into 80-90 zone while I wasn't paying attention but mostly I keep a firm grip on the throttle and follow a consistent speed. This is just my theory that it may have something to do with people not having the patience of being behind a motorcycle or next to it getting road rage for me doing the speed limit.
The reason I share this is because I have personally come to believe that the initial reason why I started speeding in the first place when I was 16-17 was due to being scared of tailgaters and hanging in people's blind spots. By speeding up and staying away from a pack of cars, I have always felt safe and it has always allowed me to have more maneuverability. By speeding up I have often cleared myself traveling next to big hunk of metal that could make a mistake, I don't trust any drivers on the road from day 1.
Between me and GTAM, I feel fearful at posted speed limits and being on the road from what I have experienced in the past 7-8 months. Now I just try to get to my destination as safely as I can and by being overly attentive while driving, its exhausting. I have never had any accidents, claims etc etc but just speeding tickets all the way up to HTA 172 (which as I have previously discussed in another post was officers error and he didn't know the posted speed limit, calling it 50 when it was 60 - doing 101 in 50 zone, as opposed to 60 zone).
I don't think I am the best driver on the road or that I am anymore special than the next guy but I follow my gut when it comes to my safety and I pay attention even at high speeds. Yet, the system has finally forced me to give up my gut feeling to be safe and follow the robotic pattern. I have a feeling that unless a motorcycle is traveling slightly faster than normal car speeds people can't take it and they try to share the lane with you because you are right next to them in that pack of cars traveling together.
Those that have never been cut off, have you noticed any of this?
ashkan
Banned
No matter how perfectly you use the blocking position and do everything by the book, there will always be blind idiots or people who simply dont know how to drive. Defensive riding is the only safe way to go. Always count on everyone not seeing you. I always pull up and pass the driver window when theres a car next to me. That virtually eliminates any chance of them not seeing me since im almost in their face. Also, always leave enough room so that if an idiot pulls into your lane, you can react and pull away. My friend went down last week when a car pulled into his lane and he couldnt do anythig. Hes ok but his bike took some damage. Ride safe.
nightflex- I drive the speed limit throughout the GTA on highways and maybe 10 over on surface streets. I've never been cut off, nor tailgated to the point of feeling scared. Maybe I'm too stupid to be scared, but I've never been fearful riding or driving.
I don't drive in Toronto during the week. I usually ride a couple hours each way on the weekends tho trail riding. My workplace is 4km from home and I average under 10,000km driving a year. So my experiences my differ from yours.
I ride like everyone wants to kill me.
I don't drive in Toronto during the week. I usually ride a couple hours each way on the weekends tho trail riding. My workplace is 4km from home and I average under 10,000km driving a year. So my experiences my differ from yours.
I ride like everyone wants to kill me.
There ya go! Average lane change in this retarded city, start making the lane change first and as you're entering the lane then look if anyone's beside you lol
My second day riding I was about 3 seconds behind the car in front of me, there was a car on the side of the road stopped, brake lights on, anyhow the car in front of me goes by the car, then the person at the side of the road pulls perpendicular to the road to reverse into his driveway, emergency brake, held down horn, he looks at me and shrugs and makes a face like "My bad".
That, kids...is why we don't pass cars on the right. Bad idea in a car, worse idea on a bike.
Passing on either side is just as bad if the driver is too ****ing stupid to check for traffic first.
So I may get flamed for this, and I admit I wasn't there - but here's what I see in the video:
The motorist in the car (fiat?) is clearly anxious to move to the right, and probably would have made a double lane change if not for the solid line - a surprise, but a pleasant one. Right around then the rider rolls off the throttle - whether it was to maintain the following distance from the car ahead, or in anticipation of the fiat moving all the way into the lane, I don't know. But what did the driver in the fiat see? When he hits the broken line section, if he did see the bike before, he probably can't see it now. Is it the riders fault? Absolutely not. Could the rider have influenced the outcome? It looks like it. Even maintaining the original speed could have made a difference, but once the rider slowed, as if prepared for the the lane change, he should have slowed more to be out of the blind spot. There is no good blocking position in a cage's blind spot.
That's why I wouldn't call that being "cut off". The driver's intentions were clear.
As for the comment about passing on the right, there's a difference between moving into the right (vs. left) lane to overtake, and simply being in traffic that is moving faster. That's going to happen. Being in the blind spot, knowing the driver wants over, and seeing the signal on, that's not a good time to pass when you've already adjusted speed.
koma
Well-known member
I agree. I think there was enough information for the rider to anticipate the possibility of the move. It seemed to me he pulled up into the car's blind spot (or thereabouts) as well.
Just my 2c though..
No flame from me. I was just too pussy to say the same thing, lol, but I'll jump on this bandwagon.
