Safety video

This almost happened to me the other day . . .
 
ViperZ said:
I am sure 99% of people in Toronto have no idea about "flicking the lights". And I am also very sure that's what you were just waiting for.
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There is no universal meaning for flicking the lights though, i flick the light to tell people that their headlights aren't on, i flick the light to tell people there is popo ahead, i flick the lights to tell people their highbeans are on, etc. Some people might flick to pass but i've never ever seen anyone do it before (other than you go first at a 4 way or someone letting you merge).
 
If you flick your lights at me to pass, I take that as flicking me the bird.
 
I agree with Sushii, same may think flashing the lights may mean you want them complete their turn and if you think it means im going dont get in my way . . . well your in trouble. Flashing means nothing
 
DownUnder said:
Actually in NZ and Aus your very very unlikely to be hit from behind by someone doing 20-30-50kms over the limit. The cops have cracked down on speeding and the whole culture of speeding, turning it into a public taboo over years of advertising campaigns. As you can see from this add even doing 3-8km over the limit they stomp down on you. There is a cop with a radar every few kms and hidden speed cameras everywhere.

The court system is set up to compliment this too. A police officer doesnt have to be there, his affidavit is as good as his word and a judge will always take their word over yours unless of coarse you can afford a lawyer that plays golf with the particular judge.

This all makes riding there very predictable as most people follow the road rules but also very risky if you want to speed anywhere.
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I noticed this on the highways in Brisbane. The speed cameras under the highway underpasses..

oh, and at least down there, they actually ticket SLOW drivers too !!
 
Sushii said:
There is no universal meaning for flicking the lights though, i flick the light to tell people that their headlights aren't on, i flick the light to tell people there is popo ahead, i flick the lights to tell people their highbeans are on, etc. Some people might flick to pass but i've never ever seen anyone do it before (other than you go first at a 4 way or someone letting you merge).
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yeah, the flash to pass is more European in my view. I have seen light flash buttons on BMW and Suzuki bikes. I think Kawazaki dont have them.
 
matt220 said:
I was going 80 in a 60 today (right lane was going about 70) and still got tail gated by some d0uche-canoe in a Mercedes. So I slowed down to 50 and watched them rage trying to merge into the right lane to pass, once they merged I sped back up to 80 as they disappeared behind me stuck in the slow lane. :D
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hmm Yeah, you got him. but you better avoid trying to rage people. People do silly things when annoyed. Not worth the hassle..
 
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cbcanada said:
@matt220

hey man whatever you write on here some one is gonna have a beef and complain about it.

you can write that you just donated $100 to an orphanage and some a-hole on here will have a beef with it.
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Yep, truely a GTAM thing
 
kiwi said:
I noticed this on the highways in Brisbane. The speed cameras under the highway underpasses..

oh, and at least down there, they actually ticket SLOW drivers too !!
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Very true, also ticket people for driving in the fast lane if they arent overtaking.
 
ViperZ said:
Wow, so you did a ******-maneuver and are proud of it! Awesome! See, if you were actually smart, you'd give a way to a faster car, because pretty much everywhere in the world the left lane is a passing lane. But yeah, be proud of yourself.
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I don't see it this way. He was in the left passing people (note him at 80kph while the right lane is at 70) and said ****** was tailgating.
I do the something similar on the 401 in the cage. If I'm in the left passing other traffic and you pull right up so close I can't see your headlights, because I'm not passing fast enough, then on come the brakes. And then you get a single digit salute when I pull back into a slower lane.
There's no good reason to tailgate.
 
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Call me crazy, but I love it when people want to go faster than me. If I see someone pulling on me in the left lane I get the **** out of the way. That's one more car that's likely to get pulled over before me. I don't get my feelings hurt and then try to provoke the person to do something stupid.

Last time I checked we already have cops to take care of people who speed. Let them do their job instead of causing more issues on the road.
 
RandomHero said:
Call me crazy, but I love it when people want to go faster than me. If I see someone pulling on me in the left lane I get the **** out of the way. That's one more car that's likely to get pulled over before me. I don't get my feelings hurt and then try to provoke the person to do something stupid.
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I like to call those people pig slop. I let them get a decent distance ahead and then match their speed. That way, if a speedtrap is passed I'll have time to see the cop pull out and put on his lights, and be able to slow down. They feed the cops or take an exit off, and I just look for the next fastest thing to follow.
Works best if the roads are almost empty.
 
Wow, 2 pages of comments and hardly anything about the video in the OP, which is wrong on so many levels.

The video shows 2 infractions, speeding 8 km over the limit and making an unsafe right turn across oncoming traffic causing serious bodily harm (broken neck) and possibly death. But the video completely ignores the more serious infraction and focusses solely on the speeding. It says that a none-speeding motorcyclist would be more visible to the driver (seriously), and would have been able to react to avoid the collision (regardless of where he was on the road when the driver pulled out in front of him). No blame against the driver is even hinted at, but they more than imply that the responsibility lies with the rider to avoid an accident.

Every rider knows that we need to watch out for all the other idiots out there if we want to stay alive. We learn it in rider training courses and we see it every day on the road. So what's the point of a government agency (I'm making an assumption here) putting this ad out to a predominantly driving public ? It seems like a very short-sighted way to publicly justify the "0-tollerance speeding - police budget fundraising program".

And what are the implications of an ad like this? It helps the driver's insurance company argue that the rider was in part responsible for the accident if it can't be proven that he was not speeding. It helps the defence when the rider's family sues the driver for wrongful death. And by shifting the blame to the rider, it essentially gives even less incentive to an already oblivious driving public, to watch out for motorcycles. Considering that unsafe left turns into oncoming traffic (right turns in Aus & NZ) are statistically the most common and most distructive form of 2-vehicle accident involving motorcycles, it is unconscionable that a government would look to shift the responsibility from the driver to the rider simply to support it's own political and financial agenda.

If this ad were put out by a government here, I'd have my MP/MPP on the phone so fast, his head would be spinning.
 
Best post of the year.
I guess even we are conditioned to think the way of this video.

Didn't even strike me as wrong.
But it is indeed wrong on so many levels.




Face said:
Wow, 2 pages of comments and hardly anything about the video in the OP, which is wrong on so many levels.

The video shows 2 infractions, speeding 8 km over the limit and making an unsafe right turn across oncoming traffic causing serious bodily harm (broken neck) and possibly death. But the video completely ignores the more serious infraction and focusses solely on the speeding. It says that a none-speeding motorcyclist would be more visible to the driver (seriously), and would have been able to react to avoid the collision (regardless of where he was on the road when the driver pulled out in front of him). No blame against the driver is even hinted at, but they more than imply that the responsibility lies with the rider to avoid an accident.

Every rider knows that we need to watch out for all the other idiots out there if we want to stay alive. We learn it in rider training courses and we see it every day on the road. So what's the point of a government agency (I'm making an assumption here) putting this ad out to a predominantly driving public ? It seems like a very short-sighted way to publicly justify the "0-tollerance speeding - police budget fundraising program".

And what are the implications of an ad like this? It helps the driver's insurance company argue that the rider was in part responsible for the accident if it can't be proven that he was not speeding. It helps the defence when the rider's family sues the driver for wrongful death. And by shifting the blame to the rider, it essentially gives even less incentive to an already oblivious driving public, to watch out for motorcycles. Considering that unsafe left turns into oncoming traffic (right turns in Aus & NZ) are statistically the most common and most distructive form of 2-vehicle accident involving motorcycles, it is unconscionable that a government would look to shift the responsibility from the driver to the rider simply to support it's own political and financial agenda.

If this ad were put out by a government here, I'd have my MP/MPP on the phone so fast, his head would be spinning.
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