Some Food for Thought
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GentlemanRacer
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GTFOOTLL .
Canadians are a nation of dog ****ers who sit in the left lane and tune out. If the police want traffic to move, forget busting speeders, they should turn up the cherries and blast through the left lane on a regular basis to clear it.
Dog ****ing in the left lane is probably the #1 cause of impaired traffic flow.
If you have time, find someone doing it and follow them off the highway to yell at them for it. You would be doing a public service.
Canadians are a nation of dog ****ers who sit in the left lane and tune out. If the police want traffic to move, forget busting speeders, they should turn up the cherries and blast through the left lane on a regular basis to clear it.
Dog ****ing in the left lane is probably the #1 cause of impaired traffic flow.
If you have time, find someone doing it and follow them off the highway to yell at them for it. You would be doing a public service.
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Don't forget the idiots that merge onto a 400 series highway at 48km/h slowing down EVERYONE.
Sabex
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I'm sorry... have you driven outside of Ontario?
Many other places actively enforce their left lane passing only laws.
And I didn't know traffic flow could become drunk.
On this mornings commute I thought it would be really good if we had designated truck lanes too - they should be relegated to the right lane (slow lane) only. The problem of people who coast in the left lane at 80 kms p/h is only further aggravated by the fact that the middle lane is full of bumper to bumper 18 wheelers all going just as slow, so you can't even pass the slow guy in the left lane.
kickstartt
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I also find alot of seriors like to drive -20 below speed limit. Perhaps they are still living in the era where max. speed is only 40km/hr in their Model-T Fords...:confused2::confused2:
espro
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How about people making lane changes for no reason e.g., middle lane to left lane with nobody in front of them? What are you doing??? Now I have to either slow down to whatever speed you feel like going (inevitably bang on or below the speed limit), or illegally pass you on the right
kruzuki
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You can give examples all day of individual things that people do wrong. Complaining about it here is like preaching to the choir! Most motorcyclists have a pretty goood idea of proper driving etiquette.
Let's face it, most drivers don't know what they're doing or they're self-absorbed in their own little world. With traffic getting worse and our lives geting busier, the problem is never going to go away.
It's more important to be more aware on our bikes than ever, be a diligent rider and always expect the unexpected.
Let's face it, most drivers don't know what they're doing or they're self-absorbed in their own little world. With traffic getting worse and our lives geting busier, the problem is never going to go away.
It's more important to be more aware on our bikes than ever, be a diligent rider and always expect the unexpected.
Sabex
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Me.
I can't, however, admit I don't do it while driving the bike. On a nice long straight stretch of road where I can see very far ahead.
Although, now that I got a new pair of gloves I can't: it works best with bare fingers.
I don't. Before the law I would use the phone, but not reading or sending messages. Now I will occasionally prop it up in he cupholder on the bbm screen if, for example, i'm on my way to meet someone.
I do find it frustrating that we have a blanket law prohibiting activity that I believe some people are capable of doing safely. As an example there are exemptions, I think, for police or emergency vehicles? So if a police officer is qualified to drive safely and use a handheld electronic device while working, what makes that officer incapable of doing it on the way home? (no need for competence jokes or insults, i'm just making a point on the logic).
Anyway, it is the law now, so I use a handsfree setup or onstar depending on the vehicle I'm in.
Sabex
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You text while on your bike?????I don't think I could ever do that...
If it's important, yeah. (Like if I'm going to meet someone; and asking if they're there yet or on their way, of if they have to bail.)
I wouldn't text just to say "hi, sup?"
jolomatic
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Disagree with some of the nuances of his point about running red lights - I figure as long as you're not holding up traffic there's no issue (ie: you're on your way through before cross traffic gets the green).
I sometimes talk on the phone while driving, tried texting a couple times and scared myself cured of that. Funny that the the big Brittish study that was used to justify the cell phone law also found that there was little to no difference in the impact between handheld and handsfree sets - it's the fact that you're on the phone at all that impares your reaction time, not the use of a hand. Also, why is it still legal to change radio stations, or switch CDs while driving?
+1 to the poster asking about how a cop on duty is safe to text but same dude off duty isn't. I guess logic has no place in the lawbooks. Or maybe it's just because on duty, if he smashes into you while he's texting it's your fault, off duty it's his fault.
I really really wish they would enforce 'right except to pass'. I spent almost 10minutes stuck in a huge gob of traffic on a 2lane secton of the 403 last weekend while one semi with it's speed limiter set about 1kph higher than the rest crawled past a line of five other trucks at 106kph, with a million cars lined up behind to get past. Actually, I guess technically he WAS passing, but still!
I sometimes talk on the phone while driving, tried texting a couple times and scared myself cured of that. Funny that the the big Brittish study that was used to justify the cell phone law also found that there was little to no difference in the impact between handheld and handsfree sets - it's the fact that you're on the phone at all that impares your reaction time, not the use of a hand. Also, why is it still legal to change radio stations, or switch CDs while driving?
+1 to the poster asking about how a cop on duty is safe to text but same dude off duty isn't. I guess logic has no place in the lawbooks. Or maybe it's just because on duty, if he smashes into you while he's texting it's your fault, off duty it's his fault.
I really really wish they would enforce 'right except to pass'. I spent almost 10minutes stuck in a huge gob of traffic on a 2lane secton of the 403 last weekend while one semi with it's speed limiter set about 1kph higher than the rest crawled past a line of five other trucks at 106kph, with a million cars lined up behind to get past. Actually, I guess technically he WAS passing, but still!
You mean like the same people that are allowed to run reds and drive on the shoulder while at work, but not in their own cars off duty? You think maybe, just maybe it's your logic that's a little skewed? Not to mention, if the cop hits you while texting or running a red, it's HIS/HER fault on duty or off.
Too bad that's the only thing they care about. I see people pulling illegal/dangerous/idiotic **** right in front of cops all the time but if you're not speeding they don't give a ****. I found out there's a number to report taxis so I emailed them about one I saw all over the road, no signals, etc. Generally driving like an ***. Guy tells me I should call the cops next time. Yeah right. They'd just laugh and then drive to Tim's in exactly the same manner as the cabbies.
Yep. I'd say 70% of the time that I am merging onto a 400 series road I'm raging in my car/bike thinking, "WTF are you guys doing? Speed up or I'm going to get rear ended you moron!"
jolomatic
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Sorry, was my sarcasm not obvious enough?
(Yes, theoretically it's their fault, but considering that in practice they can plow over pedestrians with only a slap on the wrist, I'd say effectively that them hitting you becomes your fault).
The driving on the shoulder and running reds is only allowed when they are in persuit or enroute to an emergency, and is a calculated risk to theoretically make things safer over all. Not sure how texting or working on their computers while driving serves the public, or makes anything safer for anyone.
