eljay
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Refusing to drive safely sounds awfully intentional to me.
First run-in with a no-look lane changer
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HAHAHAHA omg that has to be the best response ever
i agree with both sides
happened to me wednesday on the 401 with some tanned douchemagnet in a mini..i saw him coming from a mile away, knew he was going to do it. 401 express westb merged from center to left lane without even glancing in the mirror...convertible too, i saw it all... but i stood strong in my lane just long enough to blast with the stebel.
he casually covered his face when i blew by after in a rage...he totally ignored me as i passed on the right.
anger issues? we all have our days...avoiding these kinds of mistakes, 99% foreseeable.
still no excuse for the driver...as riders were better drivers, those who dont ride, sit in their bubble cars with so many distractions and care about nothing but themselves...unfortunately it takes an extreme case for them to change their habbits...and its only getting worse
happened to me wednesday on the 401 with some tanned douchemagnet in a mini..i saw him coming from a mile away, knew he was going to do it. 401 express westb merged from center to left lane without even glancing in the mirror...convertible too, i saw it all... but i stood strong in my lane just long enough to blast with the stebel.
he casually covered his face when i blew by after in a rage...he totally ignored me as i passed on the right.
anger issues? we all have our days...avoiding these kinds of mistakes, 99% foreseeable.
still no excuse for the driver...as riders were better drivers, those who dont ride, sit in their bubble cars with so many distractions and care about nothing but themselves...unfortunately it takes an extreme case for them to change their habbits...and its only getting worse
kickstartt
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exactly, until they (idiot drivers) get hurt, nothing else will change their habbits of driving
In this case, I dont think the driver "intentionally" ment to drive the rider off the road or hit him. If your definition of "intentional" is an excuse to use violence towards a driver who made a mistake/f'd up and apologized for it then park your bike, walk into the nearest station and report yourself as a danger to society. We have laws to deal with poor drivers....careless or dangerous you name it...you have every right to report any of those people but you do not have the right to take the law into your own hands. Sorry dude, but welcome to Canada.
The original reason for my post was exactly what "beverage" said....Analyze the situation to see how it could have been avoided all together...
For example, did the rider notice that someone in the left lane ahead of him was going to make a left turn?...did he/she see the driver signal ahead that they were going to make a left turn? Was there traffic coming the opposite direction when the driver was slowing to make that turn?....
All these little clues in some way sharp or form would have hinted to me that traffic is going to try and avoid this vehical making a left hand turn...which then tells me....hey, get ready for people to start jumping outta that left hand lane into mine...
This is why I asked if the original poster was in proper position and visible to the other drivers. When it comes down to it, we are responsible for arriving home safely. The decisions we make when riding may be the difference between a life of regret or riding another day.
eljay
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Did I condone violence?
Everything everyone does is a result of the decisions they make. Poor driving requires a conscious decision to ignore driving rules. A lack of awareness requires a refusal to be aware. A lapse in judgement is the result of refusing to make a judgement. Accidents don't just happen by accident.
I agree with you reporting bad drivers to the cops. I do it all the time.
People think theyre doing it right.
In a LOT of cases.
Whether theyre taught wrongly.
Whether they dont know better.
Whether they think 'theyve got it after so many years'.
But we all make mistakes.
I'm 100% sure that nobody in this thread has checked their blind spot 100% of the time all the time. There is certainly that one time where you didnt think about it as you had one little idea on your mind that may have distracted you for that 1 second.
Or you may have been thinking that youd been aware of your environment and didnt do it.
It some kind of a "Let he who has not sinned throw the first rock" kinda thing.
One the other hand i agree that some people DELIBERATELY dont care and would want to see the world burn ;p
The road is 'theirs' and they dont care about your well being and are just ******* about it... now that type of driver id easily get mad at even though im probably one of the most patient people ever.
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA...i come to these threads for comments like this.
RednBlax
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I ride knowing I'm invisible to other drivers and anticipate the unexpected or atleast predict it. I never ride beside another vehicle. As redrock pointed, I ride behind the bumper or infront of a neighboring vehicle.
OP: I'm not trying to bust your chops here but you could have avoided that situation. I also watch if other drivers notice me. Ones infront- did they see me in their mirrors? Have the others in next lanes noticed me? I also pay close attention when passing other drivers like what theyre doing besides driving? Are they on the cell, doing their makeup or falling asleep. Yes I noticed a driver sleeping just before i attempted to pass. Slowed down and honked to get his attention. When he saw me behind I flashed my hi beams and passed as fast as I could.
So, just be careful. I would say you handled the situation well.
OP: I'm not trying to bust your chops here but you could have avoided that situation. I also watch if other drivers notice me. Ones infront- did they see me in their mirrors? Have the others in next lanes noticed me? I also pay close attention when passing other drivers like what theyre doing besides driving? Are they on the cell, doing their makeup or falling asleep. Yes I noticed a driver sleeping just before i attempted to pass. Slowed down and honked to get his attention. When he saw me behind I flashed my hi beams and passed as fast as I could.
So, just be careful. I would say you handled the situation well.
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The correct term is "negligent."
OP: I'm glad you're ok and you manage to ride another day! We've seen too many incidents already this year.
I had a very similar situation a few weeks ago...car waiting in the left lane up ahead to turn, car beside me in the left lane and we're both closing in on the left turner. I looked over only to notice the car beside me wasn't slowing down so I slowed down a little bit and lo and behold the driver swerves into my lane at the last minute cutting me off. If I hadn't made that decision I wouldn't been toast. I pulled up beside her honking and she was a ghost white with a death grip on the steering wheel. She knew what she did and what could've happened. But we both drove/rode away to live another day.
As for some of the comments here about violence and beating the **** out of people and their cars. Grow up. You do ANY of those things the cops will be called, and you will be found and charged for the damage to person and property that you cause. Not every driver is out there to kill you when they get in the car, sure there are ******* drivers, but there's also PLENTY of ******* riders and you've all seen them (or are some of them, whatever, or you're a tough guy behind a keyboard...I don't care which it is). People make mistakes, I've cut people off and I'm sure you've all done it at some point in time whether on purpose or not. Try to contain your rage because once you lose it, no one wins and these situations can escalate extremely fast.
I had a very similar situation a few weeks ago...car waiting in the left lane up ahead to turn, car beside me in the left lane and we're both closing in on the left turner. I looked over only to notice the car beside me wasn't slowing down so I slowed down a little bit and lo and behold the driver swerves into my lane at the last minute cutting me off. If I hadn't made that decision I wouldn't been toast. I pulled up beside her honking and she was a ghost white with a death grip on the steering wheel. She knew what she did and what could've happened. But we both drove/rode away to live another day.
As for some of the comments here about violence and beating the **** out of people and their cars. Grow up. You do ANY of those things the cops will be called, and you will be found and charged for the damage to person and property that you cause. Not every driver is out there to kill you when they get in the car, sure there are ******* drivers, but there's also PLENTY of ******* riders and you've all seen them (or are some of them, whatever, or you're a tough guy behind a keyboard...I don't care which it is). People make mistakes, I've cut people off and I'm sure you've all done it at some point in time whether on purpose or not. Try to contain your rage because once you lose it, no one wins and these situations can escalate extremely fast.
silent_vik
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other vehicles come into my lane every so often. happening alot more than before. atleast once or twice a week. luckily, always have been able to avoid getting in contact. sometimes just brake, sometimes powerthrough the side. after that, sometime i yell at them, one finger salute is pretty much mandatory and sometimes just honk, shake my head and keep going. its not worth getting into physicall fights with other people.
training_wheels
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Glad your ok... I find this is a common occurrence in the downtown area
What he said.
I've had this happen to me on too many occasions to remember. Usually see it about to happen before it does and get out of the way.
Generally when drivers do this, while it may be careless on their part, it's a genuine accident and nothing malicious is intended. Any one who who loose their **** over something like this when they've not been injured is probably more dangerous on the road then the person in the cage.
That being said, sometimes people are wreckless on purpose and might deserve a slap or two.
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What he said.
I've had this happen to me on too many occasions to remember. Usually see it about to happen before it does and get out of the way.
Generally when drivers do this, while it may be careless on their part, it's a genuine accident and nothing malicious is intended. Any one who who loose their **** over something like this when they've not been injured is probably more dangerous on the road then the person in the cage.
That being said, sometimes people are wreckless on purpose and might deserve a slap or two.
Yes, while this is almost always simple negligence, rather than malice, on rare occasions it is actually on purpose. On a few occasions I've had a driver look me right in the eye, then proceed to try and take my lane from me. On those occasions I had absolutely no doubt that the driver was aware of my presence.
I find drivers have a very poor concept of speed. They look in the mirror, see you for a split second.... but cant compute the speed because they only checked once and just "make the jump" hoping for the best.
Drivers are getting worse and worse. I laugh to myself when I see that Acura commercial with the guy driving the track talking about how the new acura senses drivers in their blind spot and alerts them with a warning light (lots of cars have this feature now) but the sad part is that this is making drivers even more lazy and less prone to looking around while driving.
Ever watched a driver try to parallel park recently? now thats pathetic....they should have got one of those cars that parallel parks itself. lmao
I am glad I joined this site as its tips like these that will keep me safe.
As everyone is saying you should learn from your mistakes. Couple weeks ago I was in the right lane, left-center track, at a red light and started daydreaming. Next thing I know there's an SUV, female driver
, squeezed in on my right side making a turn. She waved at me while I stared her down. After this I started paying attention to the lane size, now I make sure im in a better blocking position as well as being a meter or so behind the white line. For the wider right lanes I go to the left track to allow cars to turn right.
