Middle weight upgrade, best value and performance...

Hey ROGO,

Have you taken the 6R to an intermediate/advance rider training? I suggest you do as its a new bike with a new feel. Most importantly in addition to you parking lot drills you need to practice assertive braking and swerving.

I took an advance training course when I got my gs500. That really helped me. I made myself a commitment to take rider training before each riding season or when I get a new bike. I'm waiting to pick up a Gsx650 and yes I signed up for a rider class. It's only 150-200. But worth every penny.

I also recommend you read a book called "proficient motorcycling"

Besides that enjoy your new ride

Or pay a bit more and take Total Control - 6 days left till mine, can't wait.
 
Thanks guys for the suggestions. I do plan on taking a course of some sort to help with performance or track riding.

I'm sure you can appreciate the costs associated with getting two bikes in my first season, gear, insurance etc...

Not to mention on going costs such as gas and somehow having to make it up to my ever so understanding wifey. :)

For now I've been gradually improving and enjoying learning this new skill, while trying to ensure those close to me that I will be safe and around for a while. :)

And I thought golf was expensive. Hopefully the membership fee of my first riding season will be the bulk of the expense and the rest will be much less going forward. hehe

I somehow get the feeling that going to and taking a track course, will only make discretionary funds continue to rise. :(
I am committed to doing something more. That is for certain. The question is when and how much more will it end up costing me. :)

PS. What I've practiced so far I've taught myself. Yes, I have practiced evasive maneuvers such as hard braking and even skidding like I used to with my bicycle. LOL

I've even safely practiced with my teenage kids so they understand how to ride double properly and tuck and roll if anything happens while riding. LOL Just kidding on the last part.
 
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Hmmm... After riding with some fellow GTAM boys today. I think I've outgrown my Middleweight and it's time for a Liter bike!!! Any suggestions as to which one would be the best to go from a ZX6R??? I saw a few nice ones today. :) LOL hahahaha
 
Hmmm... After riding with some fellow GTAM boys today. I think I've outgrown my Middleweight and it's time for a Liter bike!!! Any suggestions as to which one would be the best to go from a ZX6R??? I saw a few nice ones today. :) LOL hahahaha

Lol, you already outgrew a 600 supersport?
 
Hmmm... After riding with some fellow GTAM boys today. I think I've outgrown my Middleweight and it's time for a Liter bike!!! Any suggestions as to which one would be the best to go from a ZX6R??? I saw a few nice ones today. :) LOL hahahaha

LMFAO!!! Oh what a joke.

You are joking, right?
 
LMFAO!!! Oh what a joke.

You are joking, right?

Hahahahaha only half joking. ;)

My bank account can't take another withdrawl for even a little Honda 50!!! LMAO

I'm very happy with the ZX6R. I was only revving less than 8k rpm and she can fly. Within the week I'll get to hit 16k rpm for sure and hang on with excitement. Hehe.

When my insurance is lower and ive had a few seasons on the SS then I'll look into a liter bike. Just kidding for now. Lol :)
 
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Hey RednBlax, did we ride today? Were u at the Milton ride? I think I recognize the bike. :)
 
Hmmm... After riding with some fellow GTAM boys today. I think I've outgrown my Middleweight and it's time for a Liter bike!!! Any suggestions as to which one would be the best to go from a ZX6R??? I saw a few nice ones today. :) LOL hahahaha

I could have done today's ride with my cbr125.

Take that training course ...
 
C'mon Brian, I'm not bad for a noob and being self taught. :)

Yes I plan on taking a course as well and hitting the track. There are far fewer animals, downed branches, objects and popo that can cause for a bad situation.

PS. Guys, don't confuse my enthusiasm for riding or interest in shiny toys as a disregard for my safety, the safety of others, or the lack of understanding my own limitations of being a new rider.

Safe riding all!
 
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Hey RednBlax, did we ride today? Were u at the Milton ride? I think I recognize the bike. :)

Hey ROGO
No that was not me although I am from Milton. I'm currently at Saint John NB on a work assignment. I may return Jul/Aug and will then join you for a ride.

I ride a gs500 ( bought it here in NB) but will be trading that for a GSX650f. I use my bike to ride to work (120 km round trip) and have been commuting on it since this may. I just clocked 4000 km on it. Gs500 is a great learner but not great for long commuting. Plus im getting annoyed using the choke all the time
If all goes well I might get the gsx650 this week and will ride it home after I'm done with the project here in NB. Thats about 1600km.

Btw it's a bandit 650 not Gixer 650. People get confused with the acronyms.
 
Yes, I am familiar with the bike. Early in my search I tested the equivalent bikes from Kawi and Yamaha. Unfortunately I did not get a chance to ride the suzuki. From the many bikes I've tested, Suzuki certainly makes great bikes.

The 650 class of bikes are great all around sport touring and would be awesome for the ride back to Milton. Good luck with your purchase and safe travels to you.

BTW, even though the Ninja ZX6R does not have a choke, it's funny how it takes just about the same amount of time to warm up and get to the recommended 40+ degrees before I can ride off. I guess bikes are not like cars thay way.
 
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I could have done today's ride with my cbr125.

Take that training course ...

+1 on that for sure BrianP I know this to be true
 
So I decided to commute with the ZX6R yesterday. Holy crap was it ever HOT!!! My morning ride was somewhat normal from 7:30am, but still warm.

The ride home was nearly unbearable. I believe it was 36 celcius, I was wearing my bike jacket, helmet and gloves. Underneath were my work clothes, dress pants and short sleeve dress shirt. By the time I got home I was soaked in sweat from all the heat generated from both the humidity and the bikes engine. The bike ran 103 degrees on average in traffic and got down to 89 when coasting at city speeds.

For those of you considering upgrading from a 250 to commute, you may want to consider how much heat the bike will generate in stand still traffic. I swear I felt like I was in an oven being baked.

I wonder what it's like to ride a Vespa. They look way comfortable just weaving in and out of traffic, sitting with both feet planted, sitting upright with an open face helmet and wearing anything from shorts to full on business suits.

Happy hunting and safe riding all.
 
The ride home was nearly unbearable. I believe it was 36 celcius, I was wearing my bike jacket, helmet and gloves. Underneath were my work clothes, dress pants and short sleeve dress shirt. By the time I got home I was soaked in sweat from all the heat generated from both the humidity and the bikes engine. The bike ran 103 degrees on average in traffic and got down to 89 when coasting at city speeds.

For those of you considering upgrading from a 250 to commute, you may want to consider how much heat the bike will generate in stand still traffic. I swear I felt like I was in an oven being baked.

Dude. A bicycle is going to be brutal hot if you aren't moving in 36 degree weather.
 
Dude. A bicycle is going to be brutal hot if you aren't moving in 36 degree weather.

True, but I hope you appreciate the point I was trying to make.

For anyone who is looking to upgrade from a 250 to a middleweight or higher, if they did not consider the heat coming from a bigger engine, I was simply trying to share my experience.

Certainly the ZX6R produces more heat than the 250R and given the choice I will not be riding the SS on hot days. I will take the 250 over a pedal bike.

It's obvious in my case, I did not listen to others who made comments to this fact and purchased what I thought I wanted and lets just say I'm living with the consequence of my decision. If I could be of help to someone else great, if not c'est la vie.
 
True, but I hope you appreciate the point I was trying to make.

For anyone who is looking to upgrade from a 250 to a middleweight or higher, if they did not consider the heat coming from a bigger engine, I was simply trying to share my experience.

Certainly the ZX6R produces more heat than the 250R and given the choice I will not be riding the SS on hot days. I will take the 250 over a pedal bike.

It's obvious in my case, I did not listen to others who made comments to this fact and purchased what I thought I wanted and lets just say I'm living with the consequence of my decision. If I could be of help to someone else great, if not c'est la vie.

You're gonna love your "heat" problem in the winter, especially if it's dry like the last one :)
 
You're gonna love your "heat" problem in the winter, especially if it's dry like the last one :)

LOL Bro! That reminds me of my Humber M2 exit course I took in early April. It was a cold, wet 2 degrees in the rain. While waiting at certain moments during instruction we would all place our cold hands over the engine to keep warm. :)

100% SS in the dry winter with mods like heated grips and chains or spikes. hehe :)
 
True, but I hope you appreciate the point I was trying to make.

I do.
But you have to consider that certain machines funnel their heat at the rider with poor design. My TLR was hideous on hot days and yet my SV1000S is great. Same engine (slight differences but those are irrelavent for this topic). The full fairing and conductive huge frame allowed all the heat to come straight up to the rider, the SV with it's lack of fairing and lack of massive frame simply allow the radiant heat to disipate before discomfort can form.
 
I do.
But you have to consider that certain machines funnel their heat at the rider with poor design. My TLR was hideous on hot days and yet my SV1000S is great. Same engine (slight differences but those are irrelavent for this topic). The full fairing and conductive huge frame allowed all the heat to come straight up to the rider, the SV with it's lack of fairing and lack of massive frame simply allow the radiant heat to disipate before discomfort can form.


Hmmm, those are interesting points that make sense, which I did not even consider. It's logical that if you cover an engine and not design the bike to channel heat properly, it would potentially make for a very uncomfortable experience.

That's really good to know, especially considering if someone is intent on getting a bigger bike. Now I'm curious how the naked bikes such as the Duc's and Triumphs are designed and would make a rider feel on really hot days. Would they be much hotter than when on a 250 or are they as you suggested designed to dissipate heat better?

I'm glad you brought up this point. In future when I am ready to trade in the 250 for a better commuter/touring bike, this is something that I will definitely be looking in to. Thanks!
 
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