My first spill... slick pavement + cold tires

ItIsWhatItIs said:
A quick google 118 hp. 125 has 13 hp. The guy was an idiot to let anyone near his R6. He should have paid to have it transported especially with this ops questionable riding skills.
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Wow the OP come on here and says he has his first spill, explained exactly why it happen, how it happened and how he is going to fix it... and you kick him while he is down? Classy

Glad to hear the OP is ok and that your buddies R6 will look new in no time.
 
OP, don't let them convince you it's your fault for not knowing the tires etc. If conditions are right, you could go down being very careful. It happened to me last fall. I had been driving past a wet spot on the road every day for a week, and thought it was a funny situation I should let the city know about as I thought there might be an issue with a water pipe underneath. Anyway, next morning was about -3 and I went in to work. I approached the area very slowly and stopped at the stop sign to survey the new puddle that had formed, complete with slush at the edges. I was on my '83 CM250C, carbureted and street tires. As I went through the puddle I looked down at the water bubbling up through the road and when I looked up the bike decided to drop. No throttle change that I recall, no attempt at a turn, it just unbalanced and went down at about 5km/h. Black ice is no joke. You may have been on the area where everyone waiting to exit the lot has their exhaust drip. Oily, wet etc.
 
I really didn't mean to come across this harsh. I was merely pointing out that CHANCES are he will drop his bike. It's not certain, but it happens. More often with new riders and powerful bikes. I just think it would be prudent to wait until winter to fix the bike. That way he gets his free drop or you both save shipping when you order one side and he orders the other :p
 
At least no one was hurt. My experience on cold tires is they don't just loose traction if not overwhelmed by input. I've never been on complete race compound tires but i'd bet they follow the same principles. Yes Maybe the pavement had oil? But where was the save?Slide sideways keep the throttle steady and stand er up? Hindsight is 20/20 but happens too quick.
 
Thanks again guys for the support, links and opinions... Except yours itiswhatitis. Every line of your post is an arrogant assumption.
Anyway, I replaced both mirrors for my bud today so now he's got a spare for the right side. Took it to the shop and passed safety. The rest will be done soon.
 
ItIsWhatItIs said:
it is what it is, the op can't handle a bike. As you are the type of friend like the op, who needs you. I like my bike in one piece.
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Size of bike is not the issue here. He could have been riding a scooter and still be able to over drive the situation. Why do you feel it is necessary to say he was riding a too powerful bike for his experience? Will it somehow fix the situation?

By the way, I took myGM license endorsement test on a brand new 1982 V45 Magna, did my first season of riding on that bike. Feb of 83 I picked up a brand new V65 Magna. Got the first one in Toronto. Never had any issues of being in over my head on either of those two bikes. The V65 had so much torque that you could pull away from a dead stop, two up, and not touch the throttle, in third gear.

And, the only people that say every rider will fall, are the ones that have already fallen.
 
I went to get gas yesterday on my way to Dover yesterday, and as I put down my kick stand my right foot slipped out from under me. Someone spilled a bit of gas on the ground and that felt like walking on ice in my alpine star boots, so thank goodness the bike landed on the kickstand. We need to pay special attention to road surfaces, especially in lots.
 
bear22099 said:
Size of bike is not the issue here. He could have been riding a scooter and still be able to over drive the situation. Why do you feel it is necessary to say he was riding a too powerful bike for his experience? Will it somehow fix the situation?
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You are right the op could have been riding a scooter and there is no doubt the op still would have dropped the bike. That's why I said he should be taking the bus.

bear22099 said:
By the way, I took myGM license endorsement test on a brand new 1982 V45 Magna, did my first season of riding on that bike. Feb of 83 I picked up a brand new V65 Magna. Got the first one in Toronto. Never had any issues of being in over my head on either of those two bikes. The V65 had so much torque that you could pull away from a dead stop, two up, and not touch the throttle, in third gear.

And, the only people that say every rider will fall, are the ones that have already fallen.
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The bike wasn't his to drop. For what the op did to this bike, the owner should have rode the bike himself.
 
Well, I still need to put a new footpeg and bar-end on his bike but it's almost like new again. New tires were also installed today (Michelin Road 2) so I delivered the bike to his house. What a fun machine to ride with good rubber! :)
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