So you can't get one in April... might have to wait till May or June :lol:
1199 Panigale sight unseen?
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I stand corrected Tony my apologies. That's unfortunate and it will impact sales in Canada in the end IMHO.
On a brighter note there are already owners in UK, France and Germany that have their Panigale's and have put a fair amount of miles on with big smiles. Tony which dealership do you work? Are you getting a demo?
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awyala
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GP has told me the bikes are coming in, in a tickle feed; not all their allotment at once. As of April 23rd they should have their first 2 in plus a demo. First week of May a couple more should be coming in.
The idea is to get units out to every dealer in NA as they come off the assembly line, rather than have select dealers have all their allotment while others wait.
Only some units have made it to the UK, and Australia has a demo bike making the rounds through a few cities' main dealers.
I imagine by the middle of the summer, Toronto should have their 30+ units on the road.
Anyone know what the total Toronto allotment is?
The idea is to get units out to every dealer in NA as they come off the assembly line, rather than have select dealers have all their allotment while others wait.
Only some units have made it to the UK, and Australia has a demo bike making the rounds through a few cities' main dealers.
I imagine by the middle of the summer, Toronto should have their 30+ units on the road.
Anyone know what the total Toronto allotment is?
tonymorgan
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I'm a salesman at Apex in Waterloo. There is no second or third production runs. What has been made by now is all that will be made. If you look at the VIN plates of Ducatis, almost none are made past May. Anything after that is going to be a next-year model. We have been out of Monster 696s and 796s for a month now. We've got downpayments on 12 more Monsters that are supposed to be coming in (!?!) sometime. I'm not taking any other deposits, because I don't want any disappointed people. We must not forget that Ducati is a TINY company, and virtually all models sell out every year, which is an enviable position to be in, but it sure makes it tough on us dealers.
So based on that Tony if someone walks into a dealership in May / June and says I want a Panigale they are basically told your out of luck until 2013 model year which is basically March/April 2013 have I understood that correctly?
It depends .... I mean it's enviable to sell every bike you make. But that normally means that a company can/want expand production (why wouldn't they, if they want to improve their earnings). Unless of course you cannot or do not want to. I mean it's easy to sell every bike you make, but if the production/year is low, it's less impressive ....
Maybe that's where Audi sees their chance?
Huh?
I seem to recall left over 1198 at the dealer last few years. The individuals that really have to have a Pani will buy one in the beginning of the first year, so they might be in short supply for the first few months of the season. Ducati will continue pumping them out and shipping them to dealers no worries.
Are you suggesting they will let all the bikes made after May sit in a warehouse for months instead of shipping and selling them? Wow.
redridernl
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Need and want are two different things. I'm sure you don't need a huge jar of Nutella.
What bikes in the warehouse? Each Panigale they make is pre-destined to go to a certain country to fill pre-set allotment. They know how many they can make a year and that determines everything (it's not like they make Panigale 12 months a year ....). Most countries could sell more if they could get more .... read again few posts up.
I do. The point is I can use the whole huge Nutella jar ... most people will not be able to use even 30% of Panigale's ability .... but I don't care, buy what you want we all have different needs/tastes/flavors. And most people would probably welcome the more relaxing SF, if only they called it a sport bike .... but again, your money, your wrists. Enjoy what you can afford and like.
You should see my pantry cabinet!
What happens to all the bikes made after May?? They sit around cause they are next years model?
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awyala
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There are a few videos of the Ducati factory out on youtube. Have a look. Have a look at the Ducati Panigale assembly line video also. It really is a pretty small factory considering their Corse division is also in the same plant! I haven't seen the Ducati factory in the flesh but I have the Brembo factory and it is maaaaaaaaaaaassive!!! It really stuns me to think Ducati manage to do what they do out of that modest size factory!
One get's the feeling the factory doesn't have 10 different assembly lines cranking out 10 different bikes non-stop all year round. I get the feeling the main line or two has a quota for each bike and most likely the lines have been running full steam with Panigales to issue them to race teams in March, then demos, then customer release. The factory will probably shift into assembling other models through the summer. Don't forget Italy is also going through a nasty gas price crises and shipping costs have risen and caused strikes. This affected Fiat's production deadlines this year. So I assume Ducati have made a huge push to launch the Panigale but may need some regrouping time in the summer months. Also don't forget all of Italy takes a month off in August so all production, including my beloved Chinotto halts to a stand still.
I imagine Ducati will rotate between 848s, Monsters, Multistadas, etc etc and eventually cycle back to next gen Panigales for next year (probably by October). Next year's Pani R is supposed to have a KERS electronic motor system so they probably need development time while they take a break on Pani runs. They will also be getting feed back from their Superstock and BSB teams on improvements for next year's tweaks. I doubt it is wise to start running off next year's Pani's in June or July before feed back comes in.
Just my thoughts.
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redridernl
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Honda and others have flex lines where they make more than one model on one line. That is nothing new.
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