Accident @ Dixie & Dundas

A guy totaled his car... Rear-ended a bus... If these morons can't see a ****ing bus... What're the odds they'll see you...

Now you're starting to think like a rider. :thumbup:
 
I was riding today in the right lane of Hwy 6 coming up on a slower left-lane hogger. I couldn't tell you how far back I saw the car stopped ahead in his lane waiting to make a left, but will cautiously say upwards of a km back. I started easing up and giving myself some distance. He saw the car with only enough time to violently swerve into the right lane, MY LANE, clearing the car by a couple of feet at about 100 km/h. I thought I was gonna have a front row seat to that one.
 
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Well, you know, it's hard to text and drive at the same time!

What are you talking about? It's so easy!

[video=youtube;RJT4PA7zqRA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJT4PA7zqRA[/video]
 
I was riding today in the right lane of Hwy 6 coming up on a slower left-lane hogger. I couldn't tell you how far back I saw the car stopped ahead in his lane waiting to make a left, but will cautiously say upwards of a km back. I started easing up and giving myself some distance. He saw the car with only enough time to violently swerve into the right lane, MY LANE, clearing the car by a couple of feet at about 100 km/h. I thought I was gonna have a front row seat to that one.

A lot of drivers seem to have trouble looking further ahead than the front of their own hood. This is a classic sign of not looking far enough ahead.

I got hit from behind in my truck on the 401 because of this. I saw the brake lights well in advance and had no trouble stopping, but a quick check of the rear view mirror found a Toyota Tercel spinning sideways behind me. His driver's door hit my rear bumper with a glancing impact.
 
Brian, in defense of the Trecel, the driver likely couldn't see 3 or 4 vehicles up. You're in a truck, you can look OVER everybody. The Trecel is FOLLOWING a truck, which means it's limited to your brake lights. I drive a lifted Jeep, so I'm conscience of this. I try to stay to the right of my line whereas most small vehicle drivers stay to the left of the lane. This allows them to see at least one vehicle in front of me.

I was riding today in the right lane of Hwy 6 coming up on a slower left-lane hogger. I couldn't tell you how far back I saw the car stopped ahead in his lane waiting to make a left, but will cautiously say upwards of a km back. I started easing up and giving myself some distance. He saw the car with only enough time to violently swerve into the right lane, MY LANE, clearing the car by a couple of feet at about 100 km/h. I thought I was gonna have a front row seat to that one.
I would have followed him and talked to him once he got out of the vehicle.
 
I would have followed him and talked to him once he got out of the vehicle.

Really? How long would you have followed him for? I've got my own ride to have and my experience is that it would have had little, if any, effect. Although when I did pass, both the driver and passenger were looking straight ahead, somewhat stone faced.
 
This is probably going to get me in trouble again but and i wil be called a biggot but. Here it is...

We have way too many third world people that never grew up with cars coming here and driving.

There is something to be said about growing up as a kid and going everwhere with a car with your mom or dad. You learn things they dont or cant teach you in driving school. Call it street ettiquete call it what you will.
Call it just being used to a motorized vehicle, being used to traffic to weather, the list goes on and on

Getting your licence and the degree of training you should go thru should be relative to your background, meaning how much time you spent in a motorized vehicle or a traffic environment.

If i am from northern ontario my whole life and lived in a farm and never stepped in a car in my life or if i am from sri lanka and only seen a car once or twice a year in my village then i should not be able to come to super busy city like toronto then
pass a licence test because i learned how to used the break and gas pedal and how to parallel park...
 
This is probably going to get me in trouble again but and i wil be called a biggot but. Here it is...

We have way too many third world people that never grew up with cars coming here and driving.

There is something to be said about growing up as a kid and going everwhere with a car with your mom or dad. You learn things they dont or cant teach you in driving school. Call it street ettiquete call it what you will.
Call it just being used to a motorized vehicle, being used to traffic to weather, the list goes on and on

Getting your licence and the degree of training you should go thru should be relative to your background, meaning how much time you spent in a motorized vehicle or a traffic environment.

If i am from northern ontario my whole life and lived in a farm and never stepped in a car in my life or if i am from sri lanka and only seen a car once or twice a year in my village then i should not be able to come to super busy city like toronto then
pass a licence test because i learned how to used the break and gas pedal and how to parallel park...

It's a compounded issue. Urban sprawl and bad public transport forces immigrants to get a car. So the province makes driving accessible to the lowest common denominator, our system graduates people with basic skills instead of a higher standard, we get grid lock and accidents, high insurance rates, etc. Everybody wins AND loses. There's no real solution to the problem in my mind.
 
This is probably going to get me in trouble again but and i wil be called a biggot but. Here it is...

We have way too many third world people that never grew up with cars coming here and driving.

There is something to be said about growing up as a kid and going everwhere with a car with your mom or dad. You learn things they dont or cant teach you in driving school. Call it street ettiquete call it what you will.
Call it just being used to a motorized vehicle, being used to traffic to weather, the list goes on and on

Getting your licence and the degree of training you should go thru should be relative to your background, meaning how much time you spent in a motorized vehicle or a traffic environment.

If i am from northern ontario my whole life and lived in a farm and never stepped in a car in my life or if i am from sri lanka and only seen a car once or twice a year in my village then i should not be able to come to super busy city like toronto then
pass a licence test because i learned how to used the break and gas pedal and how to parallel park...

For your G2... They're allowed to have an interpreter in the car with them (which usually means they're told what to do) & when they're alone... We have Brampton... Worst drivers I've ever seen... My insurance went up because I moved there... Oops?


- Randy
 
What are you talking about? It's so easy!

[video=youtube;RJT4PA7zqRA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJT4PA7zqRA[/video]
That video, reinforces cbccanada's point, and I'm not talking about the fool on the bike.
 
It's a compounded issue. Urban sprawl and bad public transport forces immigrants to get a car. So the province makes driving accessible to the lowest common denominator, our system graduates people with basic skills instead of a higher standard, we get grid lock and accidents, high insurance rates, etc. Everybody wins AND loses. There's no real solution to the problem in my mind.

Very true! Compounded issue.
 
This is probably going to get me in trouble again but and i wil be called a biggot but. Here it is...

We have way too many third world people that never grew up with cars coming here and driving.

There is something to be said about growing up as a kid and going everwhere with a car with your mom or dad. You learn things they dont or cant teach you in driving school. Call it street ettiquete call it what you will.
Call it just being used to a motorized vehicle, being used to traffic to weather, the list goes on and on

Getting your licence and the degree of training you should go thru should be relative to your background, meaning how much time you spent in a motorized vehicle or a traffic environment.

If i am from northern ontario my whole life and lived in a farm and never stepped in a car in my life or if i am from sri lanka and only seen a car once or twice a year in my village then i should not be able to come to super busy city like toronto then
pass a licence test because i learned how to used the break and gas pedal and how to parallel park...

Luckily for the rest of us, you don't get to make the decisions.
 
Brian, in defense of the Trecel, the driver likely couldn't see 3 or 4 vehicles up. You're in a truck, you can look OVER everybody. The Trecel is FOLLOWING a truck, which means it's limited to your brake lights. I drive a lifted Jeep, so I'm conscience of this. I try to stay to the right of my line whereas most small vehicle drivers stay to the left of the lane. This allows them to see at least one vehicle in front of me.

In my case, the truck in question was a 1984 Toyota two-wheel-drive pickup - not appreciably different in height from a car. Even if the driver behind had been simply paying attention to MY brake lights, he ought to have been okay.
 
This is probably going to get me in trouble again but and i wil be called a biggot but. Here it is...

We have way too many third world people that never grew up with cars coming here and driving.

There is something to be said about growing up as a kid and going everwhere with a car with your mom or dad. You learn things they dont or cant teach you in driving school. Call it street ettiquete call it what you will.
Call it just being used to a motorized vehicle, being used to traffic to weather, the list goes on and on

Getting your licence and the degree of training you should go thru should be relative to your background, meaning how much time you spent in a motorized vehicle or a traffic environment.

If i am from northern ontario my whole life and lived in a farm and never stepped in a car in my life or if i am from sri lanka and only seen a car once or twice a year in my village then i should not be able to come to super busy city like toronto then
pass a licence test because i learned how to used the break and gas pedal and how to parallel park...

I agree that the issue is more prevalent with immigrants. I disagree that only immigrants should face higher standards on their driving tests.

Everyone should be subjected to a tougher test. There are a ton of "Canadians" who were driven around as kids and what not that are just as bad at driving. They should be subjected to the same tests.

The fact is, the G2 exit test consists of going through a few intersections, making a few left turns, a few right turns, merging on to the highway and getting off again. And if the instructor feels like it, they might make you parallel park too. All in all, you're done within 10 minutes. So if you manage to go 10 minutes without making enough minor mistakes or any major mistakes while driving around a 1sq km radius of the DriveTest centre, you're cleared to drive with the rest of the public until you cause a major accident and kill someone. That's the problem.

What makes me laugh is they actually closed the DriveTest centres in the GTA when it snowed in February. Everyone that had tests had to reschedule. That is just hilarious. We live in Canada, god forbid you should be tested in snowy conditions.

And don't get me started on the G1 test... What does this sign mean? How far back should you stop from a school bus? What's the hand signal for a left turn? OK, here's your licence, have fun!
 
Really? How long would you have followed him for? I've got my own ride to have and my experience is that it would have had little, if any, effect. Although when I did pass, both the driver and passenger were looking straight ahead, somewhat stone faced.
Realistically, until the next light (ask them to roll down the window) or I lost interest.... but ultimately I realize that with most people out there, the effect of my chat wouldn't last until they got home.
 
In my case, the truck in question was a 1984 Toyota two-wheel-drive pickup - not appreciably different in height from a car. Even if the driver behind had been simply paying attention to MY brake lights, he ought to have been okay.
Fair enough, I assumed a 1/2 tonne or larger pickup... I've learned to look over, through or around a vehicle when highway driving.
 
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