Stopping the bike ASAP by laying bike down or use both brakes? Emergency Situation
- Thread starter Sushii
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Problem is you worded it wrong,
In an emergency situation you brake.
In an avoidance situation you bail.
In an emergency situation you brake.
In an avoidance situation you bail.
Yes, that's what i realized a few pages back but its too late now.
Yes...really...some things are for everyone...every see twogirlsonecup?
And again...because my decisions are different than yours...I'm bad at making decisions?? Who made you god?
If your rider training taught you to evaluate, decide, react they should not be teaching anyone anything about riding. You're not piloting a large ocean-going vessel for which the correct decision is more important than a quick decision. You're on a motorcycle about to hit another car and tenths of a second count.
Go ahead and encourage other people to put themselves in harm's way.
I'd hope that most readers can make an informed decision but (as you put it) I think they're all idiots so I worry that they'll take some bad advice to heart.
My training included ramps and teeter totter...crazy stuff!!
Again with the inferiority complex....what's up with that? Does it make you feel better?? LOL
I'm encouraging people to make a decision that best suits the situation. Some people think quicker than others...that's all.
My training included ramps and teeter totter...crazy stuff!!
Again with the inferiority complex....what's up with that? Does it make you feel better?? LOL
I'm encouraging people to make a decision that best suits the situation. Some people think quicker than others...that's all.
Just like the best cure for a headache in some situations is a hollow-point 9mm? :thumbup:
if you've low sided you've already crashed, of course the smart thing to do is let go. but if you're low siding to avoid hitting something else then you're not using your brakes effectively.
lol. You had no option but to let the bike go. You were already going down. At that point it's no longer an option; unless you intentionally try to hang on to the bike for whatever reason, which at 70 kmph requires balls of steel I guess.
The question is what went wrong before you wiped out? That is what this debate is about I guess. Did you intentionally lay the bike down?(which I doubt is the case for most. I know I can't intentionally let a bike down at speed, unless I'm already going down; then letting go is instinctual) or did you skid by stomping on the rear brake in rain.
Unless you've practiced BOTH (emergency braking and sliding) on a regular basis in different situations, and have carefully analysed the pros and cons of each, I doubt that sliding a bike intentionally at speed, is naturally possible or even a sane choice. Unfortunately, I've only practice controlled emergency braking, since I lack the funds or courage to train for sliding avoidance techniques.
edit: lol. cruisngrrl beat me to it.
My training included ramps and teeter totter...crazy stuff!!
Again with the inferiority complex....what's up with that? Does it make you feel better?? LOL
I'm encouraging people to make a decision that best suits the situation. Some people think quicker than others...that's all.
Not everyone has the experience you have. You even have dirt biking experience which would give you way more experience with going down(he he he). The average rider out there just rides on the road. Could you immagine what the fallen rider section would look like if everyone tried laying down their bikes if they thought they were going to hit something instead of avoiding it all together?
He had to hold on to the bike so he could apply the front brakes while in a full slide;
Maybe that's what his question was meant to be. "When you go down, should you continue to apply the front brakes or let go of the bike?"
I have layed a old dirt bike down once to avoid hitting my parked truck square on when the brake cable broke (ended up wedging the bike under the truck). I would never do it on a street bike.
lol I haven't read any of this thread but I just wanted to say that I do lay my bike every time I get to timmies and I also throw a microphone on the ground every time I leave a room, I find it necessary.
also it's obvious that my *** has better brakes than my bike so I find it safe to lay my bike and slide on my ***.
Common sense
also it's obvious that my *** has better brakes than my bike so I find it safe to lay my bike and slide on my ***.
Common sense
If you think it's because of your accidents people think you're a bad rider you're even more out to lunch than I gave you credit for lmao
Oh? Have you ridden with me? Or are you psychic and can tell exactly who a person is based on their online activities?
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Tires/rubber have way better traction than plastic and metal so I'd say use them and never making intentional crashing a goal. Choose one of two options. 1. Brake as hard as you possibly can and at the least you will shave off a lot of speed even if you don't fully stop before crashing. If you have ABS you will more than likely shave off even more and less likely to lock the front and eat pavement.
2. Try to swerve around it as best you can. If you swerve so hard that you lowside and drop the bike, then so be it, but don't make it the goal to drop it. Obviously if there is oncoming traffic you might be forced to chose #1.
So far in both my crashes I should've chose #2.
There are rare exceptions like if something breaks. If you're going to be going faster, with less control, on the bike then you would sliding on your *** then get off the bike or lay it down. The only situations I can think of where this might be an appropriate response is if the engine is somehow running away on you (accelerating uncontrolably), you lose control of your brakes, or somehow you've lost the ability to steer the thing.
But I still consider myself a newb and I'm definitely a bad rider, lol.
2. Try to swerve around it as best you can. If you swerve so hard that you lowside and drop the bike, then so be it, but don't make it the goal to drop it. Obviously if there is oncoming traffic you might be forced to chose #1.
So far in both my crashes I should've chose #2.
There are rare exceptions like if something breaks. If you're going to be going faster, with less control, on the bike then you would sliding on your *** then get off the bike or lay it down. The only situations I can think of where this might be an appropriate response is if the engine is somehow running away on you (accelerating uncontrolably), you lose control of your brakes, or somehow you've lost the ability to steer the thing.
But I still consider myself a newb and I'm definitely a bad rider, lol.
word gets around.
