Your anecdotal evidence is valid and mine is not? Do I understand the debate properly?
Stopping the bike ASAP by laying bike down or use both brakes? Emergency Situation
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Your anecdotal evidence is valid and mine is not? Do I understand the debate properly?
It's the internet. It's not a debate.
And, to get serious for a moment, we're been shown a technique (skill) that a professional stunt rider has perfected over time by practise and repetition. Most of us would make a balls up of the lay down and do ourselves more harm than good. Although if you fancy sliding down the 401 sans motorcycle then knock yourself out.
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Once you lay 'er down you have no chance of changing direction. If you're wearing anything but leather, you're going to slide for quite a while, much further than if you just braked to a stop. Kevlar melts pretty quickly, and denim is only good for about 2 feet, then it's flesh. Ending up under the guard rail or the oncoming vehicle is a distinct possibility. All in all, stay up, use the brakes and/or change course to avoid the situation. Unless you have that rubber donut thingie installed. Is it only for Kawis?
Why not? I'd rather slide along the pavement and let the bike hit the car that pulled out in front of me rather than hit the car and fly over it causing broken bones...yes, I did do this once...no broken bones!
So while it may not make sense to you...sometimes there is a reason.
My Dad's tougher than your Dad.
No way..my Dad rode a Hodaka!!!
edit: that would also stop faster if layed down instead of using brakes!
Everyone can have an opinion Paul. After all opinions are like arseholes.
The problem with suggesting 'laying a bike down' (in my opinion) is that I'd be likely to screw that up and end up causing more potential harm than good to myself. Crahsing, or nearly crashing, is something you have to do a lot to become good at it. Just like anything that isn't a natural instinct. I'd hazard a guess that 99.9% of us on here haven't experienced crashing enough to be able to react in the best possible manner.
I'm not advising anyone to lay their bike down.....My point is to those who think (because they are experts I'm assuming) "what a dumb question". If you don't know the answer...click the next thread.
Another example of laying down the bike vs the brakes is when there is an obstacle in front of you, say a delivery truck. You know you wont stop in time and you know its impossible to swerve around it because of the size of the truck. In this case, if you tried using your brakes your bike will smash right into the truck and you'll be sent flying right into the truck face first. But if you lowside, the bike will hit the truck and you'll just slide across the pavement until the bike and you hit the truck, sure you might break some bones (legs/ankle probably) from the impact but its better than flying face first right into a solid wall.
So you got lucky. Some people that chose to stay up and hit the car also get through it with no broken bones.
If you had time to react and lay the bike down you more than likely had time to react and avoid. (But I don't know the exact circumstances so that's why i write "more than likely"). This issue is directly analagous to the idea of not wearing seatblets because you'll get thrown free and clear of the wreckage and be better off that way.
While there certainly are times that people did it and came through unharmed, anyone that thinks that it is generally the best course of action is an idiot (IMO).
I often encounter delivery trucks that jump out from behind the bushes and block my way. Same with trains. Sneaky bastards they are!
almost like pop out 3d books.
if you're going too fast to stop you're going too fast to lay it down and stop
Just because people disagree with you doesn't make them idiots Caboose. All I see in most of your posts is how everyone but you is an idiot.
Each and every time...if I'm forced to choose between hitting a car or low siding to avoid ME hitting the car...I'll choose the low side every time. It's up to the individual to make whatever decision best suits them at the time. You take your chances flying over the car...I'll take my chances with road rash...
If i tell someone that putting their dick in a toaster is a bad idea and they disagree with me.....
In an emergency situation we don't often have time to closely examine our options. The right choice is usually the first one that comes to mind. If your first reaction to an impending crash is to lay it down that will likely come back to bite you in the ***.... hard..
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So it makes them an idiot because they have different sexual preferences than you?
I never mentioned it was my first reaction. I mentioned I made a choice when faced with a situation. I do understand your points though...it's easy to be correct with words like "usually" "often" and "likely".
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Anyway, if a truck jumped out in front of me in such a fashion that I couldn't brake hard enough to stop, odds are good that I wouldn't have much time to make an informed decision about braking vs initiating a low slide. My brain would do whatever the hell it could put together at the moment. I'd most likely clamp on the brakes and/or try and swerve out of the way.
