Ninja 650 or Ninja ZX-6R
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W8INLINE
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If that were the case everyone should be riding a 125 and the more spirited riders a 250
silverbullet132
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Just get one of these:
Twin turbo V8 for speed, cruiser riding for comfort
Twin turbo V8 for speed, cruiser riding for comfort
So what? I am sure ferrary drivers buy their cars so they can drive them to their full potential all the time.
There are these "frases" out there that every one repeats over and over "ride an ss to it's potential" is one of them.
It's like having a huge penis, you don't always need it that big, but when you do.....you have it
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hilarious... i have a big penis and a super suport (2010 gixxer baby)! I must have everything I need
I think the OP should just get the ZX6R. From most people I meet... riding is really about showing off and/or trying to find a new hobby. All the props from me regardless, as long as they respect the other drivers and riders out there. It is a passion to own something very very fast, which is also why people would buy a Ferrari even though they can't use them to their full potential.
Just buy what your heart tells you!
But from the perspective of skill development, and being obsessed about improving one's own riding skill. I think you should keep riding your ninja 250r. Take it to a performance riding course on the race track and learn about corner speed properly...cause that's your only weapon out there on the 250...agility. Once you've nailed that...and just realize there's not much to improve. Get the 600!
IMO super sport bikes are REALLY boring to ride on the street...but that's because I respect the road and the people around to not drive recklessly disobeying traffic laws. If you're a touring rider...there are so many choices out there with same or similar power to a 600... If I was into touring...a V twin engine would be my preference.
Just buy what your heart tells you!
But from the perspective of skill development, and being obsessed about improving one's own riding skill. I think you should keep riding your ninja 250r. Take it to a performance riding course on the race track and learn about corner speed properly...cause that's your only weapon out there on the 250...agility. Once you've nailed that...and just realize there's not much to improve. Get the 600!
IMO super sport bikes are REALLY boring to ride on the street...but that's because I respect the road and the people around to not drive recklessly disobeying traffic laws. If you're a touring rider...there are so many choices out there with same or similar power to a 600... If I was into touring...a V twin engine would be my preference.
Have a family member at State Farm. I was told the cc thing is changing. Model of bike will be more relevant soon.
mostly the weight, about 25 pounds heavier than any other 600, also had no steering damper, very under powered on the low end, less HP than all other 600 for that year.
however, I had some good times in that bike, it handles second to none
OP: if its s 636 ninja you'll be paying for a 600cc to 750cc range price @ SF, i know this because im with SF and i talked to a guy who was 26, met me on the street in traffic when he came up to ask me what kind of bike i was riding, he was with SF as well and was paying $140 a month, with an M license, and the wasteful $400 course certificate, which he sad was BS since state farm told him they don't change prices based on that.
So if you are under 25 you could easily be paying 200+ for a 636, if you are 25 and older about $140 maybe bit higher or maybe even a bit lower per month, but thats the range, also i saw this guys bike, it looked like the first year of the 636's before that i think they were also 600's. I would get a r6 or gsxr 6 instead , much newer bikes can be had for cheaper than the zx636's, since they come in the 599cc catogary @ SF.
So if you are under 25 you could easily be paying 200+ for a 636, if you are 25 and older about $140 maybe bit higher or maybe even a bit lower per month, but thats the range, also i saw this guys bike, it looked like the first year of the 636's before that i think they were also 600's. I would get a r6 or gsxr 6 instead , much newer bikes can be had for cheaper than the zx636's, since they come in the 599cc catogary @ SF.
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Unless it has changed, as was mentioned as a possibility, this is correct. StateFarm charges by cc. I asked my agent this and even got a quote for a ZX6R vs 650R. The ZX6R was cheaper.
Most companies, yes. StateFarm charges by cc.
As for which bike, I say 650R only because it will protect your license. It will do over 200 kph easily which is more than you need and has much more torque in the low RPM range. Personally, I like gobs of torque although it can be fine to really wind up the engine for power (which you can do more of on a higher revving I4). Also, if you decide to change companies in the future it will be easier with a non-SS bike. But I haven't ever ridden a 600.
I'd look into one of Triumph's 675's as well.
I've been riding since 1984:
(250 Scooter)->(535 Cruiser)->(750 Tourer)->(1100 Sport-Tourer)->(1200 Standard)->(800 Sport-Tourer + 400 Track)->(650 Standard)
Ultimately you'll become bored of anything and start looking for something different. It doesn't matter if it's a 250 sport-tourer of a 1000 superbike; SOMETHING about it will become boring. My current bike is a Kawi ER6n, which is essentially a Ninja 650R without the fairing. It's got a rather high redline, for a twin, so it's plenty of fun to row through the gears. It feels like a bicycle compared to my '00 VFR800, but it would feel pretty heavy when coming off a Ninja 250.
Ask yourself what sort of riding you do, then pick the bike (from your short-list) that best suits that style. As long as it continues to do what you want, you won't get bored with it too quickly. Just remember that Officer Friendly is out there, with his RADAR gun just waiting for you
(250 Scooter)->(535 Cruiser)->(750 Tourer)->(1100 Sport-Tourer)->(1200 Standard)->(800 Sport-Tourer + 400 Track)->(650 Standard)
Ultimately you'll become bored of anything and start looking for something different. It doesn't matter if it's a 250 sport-tourer of a 1000 superbike; SOMETHING about it will become boring. My current bike is a Kawi ER6n, which is essentially a Ninja 650R without the fairing. It's got a rather high redline, for a twin, so it's plenty of fun to row through the gears. It feels like a bicycle compared to my '00 VFR800, but it would feel pretty heavy when coming off a Ninja 250.
Ask yourself what sort of riding you do, then pick the bike (from your short-list) that best suits that style. As long as it continues to do what you want, you won't get bored with it too quickly. Just remember that Officer Friendly is out there, with his RADAR gun just waiting for you
Funny to me how something that is supposed to teach you a skill is called wasteful because it doesn't save you money. The point of the course isn't to save money.
I took a $500 skid school course last year for my car. It was purely for self interest. It will save me no money. I wouldn't call it wasteful. I plan on taking a welding course some day for personal interest and that won't save me money, either... I guess learning is just a waste of time. lol
"thats what he said!" the guy who was telling me about his specs for insurance not me.
But as a rider since before even my teens and having seen these "so called training centres" "give me $400 and i'd teach as far as how to wheelie with one hand", for the amount of money they take and what they teach...is a ridiculous , i also think they are only good or "skillful" to those who have never touched a bike in their lives, people who started riding since they were kids to them its old news, and by the age of 18 us guys in "skill" are light years ahead any of what these begginer courses teach! so yes to us, they are BS! courses lol "only because they barely teach enough"...
And the guy who took the course did it only for insurance purpose only to find out he didn't need too, imo 60% of the people who take it might do it for insurance and other purpose, and the others just so they can pass and not fail at the mto, then you only have a handful of really timid people who have never even sat on a bike take these courses to learn "Skills" LOL.... and most still crash after!
you propbably took the course too thats why you feel the need to defend it to justify your expense, but like i said to me and others its BS, since we have been riding since we were kids, and to others its like new science, so each to his/her own.
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Even to those who may have been riding for years beforehand, a course may teach you new skills/techniques that you weren't previously familiar with. There's also the theory part of it, which although a bit boring, is good knowledge to have. At the very least, it often shows riders some bad habits they probably already have developed, and need to break.
I took the M1X course at Centennial after having my first bike for about a month or so. As a new rider, I learned a decent amount from that course. Something that you'd think would be common sense, but really isn't to many new riders: concepts like looking through your turns, and instead of at the ground/what you want to avoid, etc (target fixation is a VERY common problem for riders both new and old, and if it weren't for the course hammering this into my head I guarantee you I'd have crashed stupidly at least once by now.) Push-steering/swerving are crucial to riding, and while push-steering may already happen subconsciously, proper swerving technique is a life-saving maneuver that could kill someone who does it incorrectly. As is braking control, particularly emergency braking. I know guys who've been riding for years who still cannot brake properly, and that amazes me.
I absolutely recommend the course to anyone who intends to start riding, and even to some who've been riding for a while. You may think the money is a waste, and as you said, to each his own -- but I firmly believe that without some of the things I took away from that course, I'd probably not have been able to get myself out of some of the situations I've been in while riding.
I took the M1X course at Centennial after having my first bike for about a month or so. As a new rider, I learned a decent amount from that course. Something that you'd think would be common sense, but really isn't to many new riders: concepts like looking through your turns, and instead of at the ground/what you want to avoid, etc (target fixation is a VERY common problem for riders both new and old, and if it weren't for the course hammering this into my head I guarantee you I'd have crashed stupidly at least once by now.) Push-steering/swerving are crucial to riding, and while push-steering may already happen subconsciously, proper swerving technique is a life-saving maneuver that could kill someone who does it incorrectly. As is braking control, particularly emergency braking. I know guys who've been riding for years who still cannot brake properly, and that amazes me.
I absolutely recommend the course to anyone who intends to start riding, and even to some who've been riding for a while. You may think the money is a waste, and as you said, to each his own -- but I firmly believe that without some of the things I took away from that course, I'd probably not have been able to get myself out of some of the situations I've been in while riding.
Is this the kind of skill you're talking about?
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?140746-Lowsided-today&p=1575368#post1575368
Maybe taking a motorcycle course would've prevented those crashes...
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