well, lighter weight = less fuel
i meant make it lighter but keep it cost effective as well.
YZF R1 Dual Clutch Transmission
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well, lighter weight = less fuel
i meant make it lighter but keep it cost effective as well.
I am a little torn on all of these techno advances. MAny of them negate the skills we have worked so many yrs to become good at. Pretty soon, a newb with no talent and alot of belief, aboard a bike with killer ABS and TC and DCT etc, may be able to rival a veteran rider who has spent yrs becoming good at things like deft throttle control and trail braking etc. These techno advances make motorcycling a lot less involving....and possibly a little less rewarding for "getting it right". Thhose motorcycle enthusiasts who think like me, will understand the rush of "getting it right", and you really know when you have just done it.
I did recently read an article from a writer who I really like and respect. He was testing the new VFR, both versions. ANd he said he wanted to hate the DCT. It just doesn't seem right. SO he rode them back to back, same day, on the track. And he said that after he got used to the DCT, it dodn't seem as foreign anymore, and his lap times were better on the DCT bike than the regular trans bike. You simply can't shift a standard trans bike as fast or as smooth, especially midcorner, as the DCT version.
I did recently read an article from a writer who I really like and respect. He was testing the new VFR, both versions. ANd he said he wanted to hate the DCT. It just doesn't seem right. SO he rode them back to back, same day, on the track. And he said that after he got used to the DCT, it dodn't seem as foreign anymore, and his lap times were better on the DCT bike than the regular trans bike. You simply can't shift a standard trans bike as fast or as smooth, especially midcorner, as the DCT version.
that feature has been around for a while, very few have chosen to use it.
I appreciate you guys taking your time to reply, but I what I think the main reason here is accidents bikers get in. I am not saying that its the fault of the biker because I know that a lot of people driving cars dont even see the biker in their blind spot. However, I do strongly believe that DCT and other computerized system are installed to lessen the biker error. Yes cagers are completely oblivious to the fact that there are bikers on the streets as well and if they see one they should be more careful. I think with all the automatic system biker errors will be less and anyone can just hop on a crotch rocket and start riding, of course experience is still necessary.
You need to spend more time researching, and getting more experience riding.
I tell you this as nicely as possible, as there are many things in your post that will be getting you flamed pretty soon. You're new and likely inexperienced, which is why I'm being nice.
ABS is the single greatest advantage new or unskiller riders could have on their bikes....and North American bikes see alot less ABS offerings than the same bikes in Europe. Know why? CUz they don't give a **** about rider safety, or saving the rider from himself either.........it all money my friend.
i used to think ABS is great until i did more research. apparently on some ABS models from honda and other japanese manufacturers. under certain conditions, ie the road is bumpy and you are braking. the bumps make your wheel do tiny hops and with brakes applied your wheels do micro lock up which makes the ABS kick in and suddenly you have no brakes.
i've read that one guy on a honda cbr1000rr (read it on the 1000rr forum) actually went thru a red light cuz he had no brakes. good thing no cars were coming otherwise he would've been toast.
And you believe everything you read on the internet??
People like to blame their lack of ability on the equipment they use.
yes i shouldn't believe everything i read on the internet. should i believe everything you say? not saying it happens all the time, but definitely possible.
There was a TON of the "My car has no brakes" issues when ABS came into the automotive world as drivers did not know how to deal with ABS equipped vehicles.
The pedal would pulse back at them and they would release the pedal, thinking something was wrong, VOILA, no brakes.
Spend enough time in the motorcycle world and you'll find that NO ONE is ever at fault for anything, problems are caused by equipment failure or other drivers/riders.
i dont believe you. cuz someone on the internet told me i shouldn't believe everything i read on the internet. lol
now you're on the trolley.
Plenty of stuff SINCE a year ago in that linked thread - including apparently at least one case of Honda buying back someone's bike, and then finally, a new ECU with different programming to solve the problems - then a recall in some European countries - and then a recurring problem with the new ECU fitted!
This shouldn't be interpreted as a condemnation of ABS as a whole - only that there is some sort of fault with that particular system.
Anyway, this is completely off topic with the original dual-clutch transmission subject.
This shouldn't be interpreted as a condemnation of ABS as a whole - only that there is some sort of fault with that particular system.
Anyway, this is completely off topic with the original dual-clutch transmission subject.
The situation that you described first, is NOT the situation that is being reported on the Honda ABS system.
It's quite true that if you are braking moderately hard on uneven pavement, micro-lock-ups will occur and trigger ABS activation, and on a bike without ABS in the same situation, these micro-lock-ups would probably pass by unnoticed. (I had a rental BMW with ABS for a couple of weeks, and it would do that - but it's not a big deal.) ABS cycling in this situation is completely normal and will NOT result in loss of braking pressure or make the lever come back to the bar or any such thing. The braking goes back to normal on the other side of the bump.
Neither of the two independent problems described with the Honda system in that thread are what is described above.
FWIW I believe Kawasaki is using a Bosch ABS system on the new ZX10R (i.e. different from the system that Honda is using!), and I've not heard of any issues with it.
This
Trumps this:
With the state of disrepair a large portion of the motorcycling community operates their equipment in, a technology failure should be low on the list of concerns.
Trumps this:
With the state of disrepair a large portion of the motorcycling community operates their equipment in, a technology failure should be low on the list of concerns.
