New to supermoto, which bike

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I wanna learn how to back it in...and more ;)

I've narrowed down my choices tO the wr250x and the sxv450

The two bikes I'm looking at are the same price, the wr has a full pipe, the ape is stock - the engine was replaced and it also has the 'black' case sealant.

I need it to do some street duty, a little offeoading, maybe a little stunting, and will be doing up some track days next year to improve my skill. I'm afraid the wr might be gutless but the sxv too much of an animal (not interested in Suzuki)

My background: a half year on the street with a 250, a full year on a 600 at the track as a fast intermediate rider. I'm small, 5'6, 130lbs

[h=2][/h] Bottom line: can i learn all the cool stuff on a wr250x? I dont see any drifting vids on youtube with it. Will i improve my clutch control, bike control, learn about traction on the 250, or is it a waste of a step for me?
 
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I've had great luck with husqvarna supermoto's, I've had a 450 and a 510, over 12000 kms on the 450 with no issues. sold the 510 before i got too many miles on it and bought a track bike. both bikes were manic. 45-55hp and very reliable. either one would absolutely eat a wr250/ drz400 and be on par with the aprilia. all i can say with the aprilia, great bike, but sensitive when it comes to maintenance and good luck getting parts...I dont care what your dealer says.. good luck getting parts.
 
Contact Reciprocity and see if you can get down to Batavia with him.If your'e going to learn,you might as well learn from a pro.And i'm pretty sure he might let you go out on a "real" motard.The bikes you are mentioning are not motards.They are wanabee types.
 
From your post I assume you are looking for a street legal bike?


Wingboy, I don't think that Batavia is an option anymore. I believe thay don't have the open track days, otherwise I would have gone down with recip long time ago ... :-)
 
Wingboy said:
Contact Reciprocity and see if you can get down to Batavia with him.If your'e going to learn,you might as well learn from a pro.And i'm pretty sure he might let you go out on a "real" motard.The bikes you are mentioning are not motards.They are wanabee types.
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I wouldn't call the sxv a wannabe. The 450 isn't as high strung as the 550 and apparently has less issues.
 
ya i know the aprilia is going to be maintenance intensive, at the same time, i dont plan on doing any touring with either bikes, from time to time, i need to get from point a to point b though (maybe a 20 km ride here and there). I was trying to find out if a 250/400 is a necessary step in the development of supermoto riding
 
For the amount of street riding you plan to do I wouldn't consider the WR250x a option at all, if you were using it on a regular basis maybe. If I was in your position I would look for a either a husky like mentioned before or find a converted/blue plated 450 mx bike.
 
you can learn anything you need to learn on both bikes.

The husky's mentioned above are good as well, but in terms of performance are NOT equal to Either of the SXV's(450 or 550)

stop thinking about "DRIFTING" supermoto's don't drift, they slide, BIG difference.

the sliding is not a function of going fast, its a result of it, ie, until you start going fast, don't waste your time, it's like knee dragging on a roadrace bike.
 
so deciding between a 250 and 450 would be more of a matter of preference, and not as much of a determining factor in picking up skill in this case?
 
TomC said:
so deciding between a 250 and 450 would be more of a matter of preference, and not as much of a determining factor in picking up skill in this case?
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correct.

You can learn the skills on a 100, bike size isn't really a factor in learning the skills.

I can teach you the rest, but it will cost you cheeseburgers.
 
reciprocity said:
correct.

You can learn the skills on a 100, bike size isn't really a factor in learning the skills.

I can teach you the rest, but it will cost you cheeseburgers.
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So coming off a Ninja 250, and not wanting an SS for the street (would rather track one), would you say it's better to skip something like the DRZ400SM, and instead look at the Aprilias?
 
HorizonXP said:
So coming off a Ninja 250, and not wanting an SS for the street (would rather track one), would you say it's better to skip something like the DRZ400SM, and instead look at the Aprilias?
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the DRZ is a better all round bike.

you can run sand in the cases and it'll still run(but only synthetic sand)

The Aprillia will be the equivalent to upgrading from your Ninja 250 to a GSXR1000.

these bikes are COMPLETELY different from anything you've experienced and they are 10000 Times the license removal tool a supersport 1000 is.

on the race track, corner to corner, they will suck the numberplates off a superbike until they run out of gearbox.
 
reciprocity said:
correct.

You can learn the skills on a 100, bike size isn't really a factor in learning the skills.

I can teach you the rest, but it will cost you cheeseburgers.
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overpriced sandwiches from holt renfrew cafe is how i roll...
 
Fine, bring lots, sliding makes me hungry.

I'll have you doing this by the end of the day.


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mxs said:
Wingboy, I don't think that Batavia is an option anymore. I believe thay don't have the open track days, otherwise I would have gone down with recip long time ago ... :-)
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BTW batavia is not an option, the two remaining options are bracebridge or avon, from hamilton each is about 250 kms, one has a border the other has the 400 which is usually worse then the border. Avon is 35 bucks for the day, bracebridge is 20 bucks per riding hour ? i think thats the last i heard. Neither has dirt, both offer great traction, avon will require a db dawg of some sort as noise is an issue, neither has food, water or bathrooms. Both are alot of fun. I think a few of us will be going to avon saturday august 13th, not sure when georgys next bracebridge trip is, but its open all the time, avon is not.
 
really liking what im reading about the husky smr. i guess ill have to wait until one pops up...preferably a 450.
 
chadta said:
BTW batavia is not an option, the two remaining options are bracebridge or avon, from hamilton each is about 250 kms, one has a border the other has the 400 which is usually worse then the border. Avon is 35 bucks for the day, bracebridge is 20 bucks per riding hour ? i think thats the last i heard. Neither has dirt, both offer great traction, avon will require a db dawg of some sort as noise is an issue, neither has food, water or bathrooms. Both are alot of fun. I think a few of us will be going to avon saturday august 13th, not sure when georgys next bracebridge trip is, but its open all the time, avon is not.
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Aug 13 might be too short of a notice, but I'd consider something end of August or beg. og Sep. Do you usually post here and is there anyone with a trailer spot usually as I don't have one .... Might even consider renting a full sumo bike from Recip, if that was an option.
 
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