Kitchener man charged with racing – 177 km/h in 80 zone on motorcycle

WOW WTF! - I guess no regard for himself, family and others on the road if something went wrong and got hurt or died.

I know! Imagine a man his age riding a motorcycle! Doesn't he realize that's dangerous? It should be reserved for the young who haven't had the opportunity to live their lives, have kids and make the world a better place. Those folks can do dangerous stuff.

I don't know the rider, but it may well be that his family is comfortably looked after and his kids grown. Is that not a better time of life to take risks?

And the guy was speeding. Not slalloming school buses at recess in the parking lot of the elementary school.
 
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Is it wrong I have no problem with any part of this story.

I don't mind him going that fast. I also don't mind the police catching him. He knew what he was doing. Now I hope he knows enough for a lawyer.

On a weird note. Congrats Turbo it seems as though you finally got the popular side of the argument.
 
Oh that makes it ok then. The only potential victims of this idiot would have been the half dozen residences and farms with driveways entering onto the 1.5 km center-stretch between St Pauls Station and Highway 7, plus the residents in another few dozen St. Pauls Station homes and area farms who also would use that road to get to nearby Stratford for shopping and such. Yes, they would be most happy that this idiot chose THEIR "not very hazardous" road to be a fool on, and would be perfectly understanding had something gone wrong on their road.

This guy wasn't nailed for doing 10 or 20 over. He was doing 97 over. Big difference. Nobody would reasonably expect or allow for approaching traffic with that sort of speed, and at that speed he'd cut right through a car pulling out of a driveway, never mind some kid on a bicycle or some farm hand coming out of a field.

Could you get off Fantino's wang for just one post?
 
Eh he gambled and lost, gotta be smart where you speed. And 177 isn't all that fast, can bring that do a legal speed in a couple seconds without touching the brakes really, so it's not like he was going to wipe out an entire village if he crashed.
 
Oh that makes it ok then. The only potential victims of this idiot would have been the half dozen residences and farms with driveways entering onto the 1.5 km center-stretch between St Pauls Station and Highway 7, plus the residents in another few dozen St. Pauls Station homes and area farms who also would use that road to get to nearby Stratford for shopping and such. Yes, they would be most happy that this idiot chose THEIR "not very hazardous" road to be a fool on, and would be perfectly understanding had something gone wrong on their road.

This guy wasn't nailed for doing 10 or 20 over. He was doing 97 over. Big difference. Nobody would reasonably expect or allow for approaching traffic with that sort of speed, and at that speed he'd cut right through a car pulling out of a driveway, never mind some kid on a bicycle or some farm hand coming out of a field.

Sell your bike, delete your GTAM account, give away your gear and cut up your licence... We all speed.


Oh ya... who the **** would step out into the road when a bike is screaming at 177km/h?
 
Sell your bike, delete your GTAM account, give away your gear and cut up your licence... We all speed.

It's a matter of degrees, don't you agree?

The stunt-driving legislation is about excessive speeding, way beyond what would be considered a reasonable, garden variety 'oopsie' of even 20-30 km/h.

A lot of people are guilty of that level of transgression, myself included.

97 over? Not so very many, i'd think. I've only seen that rate of speed on the drag-strip, in the past 10 years. Prior to that in the few times that i did rates like that on public roads, dumb dumb dumb.. if i'd gotten nailed for that on public roadways, i'd deserve every penny of the penalty for that level of stupidity.

Oh ya... who the **** would step out into the road when a bike is screaming at 177km/h?

You'd be surprised.

I've been nailed while i was coming out of my own driveway many years ago, by some ****** doing well in excess of the limit, on a lightly travelled road. Bingo, Bango, Boingo, two vehicles written off, and a car into a house foundation. Accident reconstruction proved that the limit was exceeded by so much, that there was no reasonable expectation that i could have predicted the meeting of metal, while in the act of pulling out of the driveway.

All it takes is one kid, single-mindedly chasing a ball, a dog, or his friends, to prove that it can happen, with tragic results.

I hope this isn't the Predictor for the Coming of the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse, but i agree with Turbodish in this case. 172 was written for cases like this, whether we like it or not.
 
Sell your bike, delete your GTAM account, give away your gear and cut up your licence... We all speed.

Lol - internet thug. How 'bout you take your own advice before asking others to take it?
 
177kph in an 80kph zone is pretty ballsy, no matter how you look at it. For the money the HTA 172 is going to cost......and it's still huge even if you get off, I hope it was worth it - LOL! You'd think a 47 y/o would know better. There are race tracks, no? I'm too cheap to go 20kph over......I know you can get away with it most of the time, but eventually you get stung.
 
Well if he can't handle his throttle blips more appropriately, then maybe he should trade what he has in on a CBR125 or maybe a Vespa.
or maybe he needs to learn to RUNNNN.. I found out this weekend cops in their f250's towing a boat will still pull a u-turn and try and chase.
 
My my,what a compliment Yamaha Girl! I do agree that the rider deserves a big fine for what he did.But 172 is a big pile of donkeyball crap.A person operating a vehicle 49kph over gets a fine and a trial date to fight it.But at 50kph over the operator gets an impound and a criminal record! Total crap! I would rather see self proclaimed experts like Turbo with his home engineered long distance (read cheap) touring rig taken off the road.Imagine trying to avoid an obstacle in a curve when your car tire equipped rig loses traction and swerves into oncoming traffic in the other lane.Not you Turbo? Ok,i take it back then.But if you do indeed tour around on that thing,then you too are a hazard on the roads as is the guy up on 172.Just my honest and experienced opinion.
 
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My my,what a compliment Yamaha Girl! I do agree that the rider deserves a gig fine for what he did.But 172 is a big pile of donkeyball crap.A person operating a vehicle 49kph over gets a fine and a trial date to fight it.But at 50kph over the operator gets an impound and a criminal record! Total crap!

Not to quibble.. but Dangerous driving is a criminal offence.. 172 is not. Though it basically criminalizes you with a guilty until proven innocent situation, in the eyes of the court and insurance before an actual trial..

I don't like 172 either - it's an un-necessary legislation that was enacted, where other charges/penalties already on the books would have sufficed. That said, some instances meet the very definition of 172...

I would rather see self proclaimed experts like Turbo with his home engineered long distance (read cheap) touring rig taken off the road.Imagine trying to avoid an obstacle in a curve when your car tire equipped rig loses traction and swerves into oncoming traffic in the other lane.Not you Turbo? Ok,i take it back then.But if you do indeed tour around on that thing,then you too are a hazard on the roads as is the guy up on 172.Just my honest and experienced opinion.

Turbodish a Darksider? tssk, tssk... he should know better. If you are going to run automotive tires - a) use automotive rims, and b) have a reason to do so that justifies using flat-profile rubber in the first place. Being cheap, at the potential expense of safety, isn't an excuse.
 
Lol - internet thug. How 'bout you take your own advice before asking others to take it?

NOTED!!! but I think I will just stir the pot some more
 
or maybe he needs to learn to RUNNNN.. I found out this weekend cops in their f250's towing a boat will still pull a u-turn and try and chase.

My my,what a compliment Yamaha Girl! I do agree that the rider deserves a big fine for what he did.But 172 is a big pile of donkeyball crap.A person operating a vehicle 49kph over gets a fine and a trial date to fight it.But at 50kph over the operator gets an impound and a criminal record! Total crap! I would rather see self proclaimed experts like Turbo with his home engineered long distance (read cheap) touring rig taken off the road.Imagine trying to avoid an obstacle in a curve when your car tire equipped rig loses traction and swerves into oncoming traffic in the other lane.Not you Turbo? Ok,i take it back then.But if you do indeed tour around on that thing,then you too are a hazard on the roads as is the guy up on 172.Just my honest and experienced opinion.

U're a mod, just ban him :rolleyes:
 
That's an admitted troll Holmes.Btw,your inbox is full. Lol.

LOL, hey man Im bored at work, I gotta entertain myself somehow. Its fun to rile up these straight edge ***s on this site, can ya blame me?
 
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