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YRP flies drone into a landing Cessna

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I threw it into the police thread. Flying a commercial drone into controlled airspace without permission and then hitting a plane. Damn. Pretty much the sky is falling scenario that they were trying to prevent with drone licensing. Last I heard most municipalities self insured so this will likely be a low to mid six figure hit for the york region taxpayers.
 
Isn’t this a criminal charge???
You think they are going to lay a criminal charge (and get a conviction) on a cop doing their cop (criminally poorly)? In all seriousness, it looks like this would just be fines for CAR violations. Eligible for at least $20K of taxpayer money.


Operating drones outside the mandated rules and regulations could result in:

  • up to a $5,000 fine for each violation of:
    • flying a drone without a pilot certificate;
    • flying an unregistered or unmarked drone; or
    • flying in a controlled or restricted airspace (without an SFOC); and
  • up to a $15,000 fine for flying a drone in a manner that may place other aircrafts or people at risk.
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At a minimum, I would like to see the cop operating the drone pay the fine. Seems reasonable when they were the one making poor decisions and putting lives in danger. I doubt even that will happen.
 
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Drone? What Drone?
Nothing to see here folks, move along...
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I have my money on very little happening, hopefully I am wrong....but....
 
Is it like a speeding ticket where an officer has the option to lay a charge or not?
I agree, it's probably going to end with someone getting a stern talking to, and nothing else, but what if that drone belonged to a youtuber?

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I agree, it's probably going to end with someone getting a stern talking to, and nothing else, but what if that drone belonged to a youtuber?
It would have been a hell of a lot smaller and caused less damage.
 
Pics of plane are starting to come out. Looks like taxpayers will be on the hook for a few months of loss of income too.



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"He said it will likely take several months for the plane’s extensive damage to be repaired, which he says will have a large impact on his business."
 
Pics of plane are starting to come out. Looks like taxpayers will be on the hook for a few months of loss of income too.



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"He said it will likely take several months for the plane’s extensive damage to be repaired, which he says will have a large impact on his business."
Probably rents that plane out 24 hours a day, 7 days a weelk with an instructor.
 
more details need to be known to draw conclusions
like how far from the airport was the drone

but there is unlikely to be any consequences for an individual cop on duty
even when there's a body in the street, bullet holes in the back
30 cell phone videos of the shooting, the Blue Wall is in lock step

they're prolly looking for a way to fine and sue the pilot
 
more details need to be known to draw conclusions
like how far from the airport was the drone

but there is unlikely to be any consequences for an individual cop on duty
even when there's a body in the street, bullet holes in the back
30 cell phone videos of the shooting, the Blue Wall is in lock step

they're prolly looking for a way to fine and sue the pilot
Obstruction of Justice….he hindered an ongoing investigation that was using the drone.

Poor bastard is done for.
 
more details need to be known to draw conclusions
like how far from the airport was the drone

but there is unlikely to be any consequences for an individual cop on duty
even when there's a body in the street, bullet holes in the back
30 cell phone videos of the shooting, the Blue Wall is in lock step

they're prolly looking for a way to fine and sue the pilot
Since they had done the base turn and were on final approach at 500', the plane was in very close (strike apparently happened in class E airspace within 1 nautical mile of runway). No drone operation at all permitted within that zone without requesting approval. I have no idea how approval for invading final approach works. TFR to shut the runway for an hour? Tell the police to do it the old way?

Did the cops have "advanced pilot certificates"? If so, wtf were they flying drones in the approach path without authorization? Half of york region is a hard drone no fly zone without written authorization.

Drone exclusion map:

901.47(2) of the Canadian Aviation Regulations states:

"Subject to section 901.73, no pilot shall operate a remotely piloted aircraft at a distance of less than: (a) three nautical miles from the centre of an airport; and (b) one nautical mile from the centre of a heliport.

This is a certified airport or heliport. The red shape on the map shows the area surrounding the heliport or airport where basic drone operations are not permitted

Typical circuit map in this document (I don't have access to proper plates):


Incident report (no incident number yet):

At 1NM Northwest (NW) of Toronto/Buttonville, ON (CYKZ), a Canadian Flyers International Inc. Cessna 172N (C-GKWL) on a flight to Toronto/Buttonville, ON (CYKZ) was struck by a remotely piloted aircraft system (RPAS) while on final approach into CYKZ. The RPAS was part of a York Police Services operation in the area of Richmond Hill. No reporting of injuries or extent of the damage to the aircraft. NAV CANADA had not been advised of the RPAS operation.

UPDATE: Aviation Incident Report #17258: The instructor for a Canadian Flyers International Inc. Cessna 172N (C-GKWL) reported that they had just turned from base leg to final for Runway 15 at Toronto/Buttonville, ON (CYKZ) and were established and stable at 1100 ASL, or about 500 AGL, when they felt a jolt that pushed them back on their seat. They thought they had hit a large bird. They proceeded to land. There was no change in configuration or power since they were about to land. When exiting the aircraft, they were shocked to see a major dent on the left underside of the engine cowling. The airbox was also bent. A few hours later, a police detective confirmed a York Regional Police drone had struck their aircraft. The aircraft suffered major damage, including a propeller strike.


Info on YRP drone from 2015. Not sure if this was the drone destroyed in this incident:


Two licensed officers, one observing the drone and the other using a tablet and stylus pen to control the flight path, operated the apparatus that’s worth $125,000, including the cameras.
It weighs 2.4 kilograms, is capable of vertical take offs and landings and can capture high-resolution images during the day or night.


Navcanada requires written authorization prior to flying a drone in Class E:


Remotely piloted aircraft systems (RPAS) — also known as drones or unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) — have to follow flight rules, too. To fly a drone in controlled airspace under NAV CANADA jurisdiction (Class A to E): • The RPA must be registered with Transport Canada • The operator must hold an advanced operations pilot certificate • The operator must receive written authorization from NAV CANADA
 
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Since they had done the base turn and were on final approach at 500', the plane was in very close (strike apparently happened in class E airspace within 1 nautical mile of runway). No drone operation at all permitted within that zone without requesting approval. I have no idea how approval for invading final approach works. TFR to shut the runway for an hour? Tell the police to do it the old way?

Means it has to be co-ordinated with air traffic control.

Smaller airports that don't have air traffic control still have a designated radio frequency that all pilots in the area are supposed to set their radio to, and announce what they're doing to other pilots that might be in the area. Drone? Means the operator needs to have a radio, set to that airport's frequency, announce what they're doing, and listen to that frequency full time in case some other pilot calls in wanting to do something or pass through the area.
 
Means it has to be co-ordinated with air traffic control.

Smaller airports that don't have air traffic control still have a designated radio frequency that all pilots in the area are supposed to set their radio to, and announce what they're doing to other pilots that might be in the area. Drone? Means the operator needs to have a radio, set to that airport's frequency, announce what they're doing, and listen to that frequency full time in case some other pilot calls in wanting to do something or pass through the area.
I mean the drone approval. I doubt Nav canada would grant the drone approval to fly in the approach path without shutting down that runway. Written authorization is required. A radio callout is explicitly insufficient.
 
Approximate Crash area

There's even a plane around a mile out.
 

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