Why smart people believe myths

First off, this article is almost 2 years old (April 2020) and a LOT more has been learned/leaked/identified (whatever word you'd like to insert here) about the virus (it's origins, treatments, vaccines, effects of lockdowns etc) so take it with a grain of salt...I do believe that the virus can be deadly for certain groups (elderly and those with co-morbidities) but at the same time, for most people with healthy immune systems (even those unvaccinated) who catch it, the outcome is generally ok (I personally know several unvaccinated people who have had it and were no worse off than a flu)...it has been known for some time that our health care system was flawed, and the virus only exacerbated the problems, which is why we had lockdowns...again, I know people who work in hospitals who all say they are overworked and understaffed, but this was a problem long before Covid-19 arrived on the scene...lockdowns have created a slew of other issues with society that are going to take much longer to get over than the deaths (approximately 1.9% of those infected)...for example, suicide rates among youth, social behavior issues with children/youth, spousal abuse, alcohol/drug abuse etc...the Barrington Declaration (and heck, even the WHO) both stated that lockdowns should be a last resort measure, that we should protect the vulnerable and let the rest of society function...but hey, I'm just a peon, what do I know...
 
I usually steer into the skid and make up stuff that is even more crazy than what they are saying. And it won't follow their narrative.... confuses and shuts them up pretty quick. Any counterpoint they make you just say don't be a sheeple, blah, blah, blah, everyone knows.
 
backmarkerducati said:
I usually steer into the skid and make up stuff that is even more crazy than what they are saying. And it won't follow their narrative.... confuses and shuts them up pretty quick. Any counterpoint they make you just say don't be a sheeple, blah, blah, blah, everyone knows.
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Don't forget the classic 'do your research'.
 
ifiddles said:
First off, this article is almost 2 years old (April 2020) and a LOT more has been learned/leaked/identified (whatever word you'd like to insert here) about the virus (it's origins, treatments, vaccines, effects of lockdowns etc) so take it with a grain of salt...I do believe that the virus can be deadly for certain groups (elderly and those with co-morbidities) but at the same time, for most people with healthy immune systems (even those unvaccinated) who catch it, the outcome is generally ok (I personally know several unvaccinated people who have had it and were no worse off than a flu)...it has been known for some time that our health care system was flawed, and the virus only exacerbated the problems, which is why we had lockdowns...again, I know people who work in hospitals who all say they are overworked and understaffed, but this was a problem long before Covid-19 arrived on the scene...lockdowns have created a slew of other issues with society that are going to take much longer to get over than the deaths (approximately 1.9% of those infected)...for example, suicide rates among youth, social behavior issues with children/youth, spousal abuse, alcohol/drug abuse etc...the Barrington Declaration (and heck, even the WHO) both stated that lockdowns should be a last resort measure, that we should protect the vulnerable and let the rest of society function...but hey, I'm just a peon, what do I know...
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I have a few friends in health care that've been at the forefront of COVID (data analysis, and on field work.) While I was originally in the "get your vaccine, put your mask on, and shut the **** up" crowd....the discussions we've had has put me right in the middle.

The most simple way to put it is this: do we care about the old or the young? Because only one of those are statistically more likely to die; saving one will cost the other something.
 
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