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Wheel centered on forks?

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I always assumed the front wheel should be in line with the steerer tube. Mounting a custom built wheel I immediately noticed it was pulled to one side. Checking the OEM wheel revealed it also pulled to one side. I'd never noticed that before. What are the odds that's by design? 11/64 off btw.
 
I'm curious to know how you measured it.
 
Centered the wheel. Used drill bit as gauge between speedo drive and fork leg.
 
Very nice. I was thinking some kind of run out gauge that cost a week's salary. Lol.
 
Some wheels have offset or dish, usually to gain space for a brake disk or chain wheel.
The rim/tire is to be centered in the forks and the hub will be offset.
Did you mix up the spacers?
 
Some wheels have offset or dish, usually to gain space for a brake disk or chain wheel.
The rim/tire is to be centered in the forks and the hub will be offset.
Did you mix up the spacers?

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe compare to another bike of the same year and model?

Thanks. There is only one spacer and can go in only one way. I've got feelers out at Triumph Rat (07 Scrambler) nothing yet. I'm going to go ahead and assume the wheel should be on centre. I just can't imagine otherwise by design.
 
Very nice. I was thinking some kind of run out gauge that cost a week's salary. Lol.


Initially I used 2x4 lumber cut to fit between the lower legs on top of rim and marked with pencil. Sometime you just gotta step back for a minute to regroup.lol
 
Another proof is when you put brake caliper on, this will tell you exactly where rim sits on axle.
 
Brake pads centered in each caliper is a good indication.

Measure between the inside of the fork leg and the lip of the bead area on the rim; you might have to take the front fender off to do this right.

If the forks are uneven height in the triple clamps, this can skew the axle and tilt the wheel ... check that, too.

If the wheel has a speedo drive in it, that will only be on one side. It's not uncommon for that to be asymmetrical with the spacer on the other side.
 
I'm pretty confident I've the hub where it needs to be. Disc to wheel bearing is also identical both wheels. Forks are good. Measuring fork to rim both sides shows 11/32 difference which corresponds to my drill gauge of 11/64 at speedo drive/fork faces with wheel on centre. Clear as mud.
Good to go, just got off the horn to Mark Rawlings for a dish job. Came recommended per this site.



edit, lol need odd ball spoke wrench
 
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Im thinking that in theory the wheel would not have to be centered between the forks (due to needing room for some item?)..however the front and back path of travel WILL HAVE TO BE ONLINE 100%.
 
Triumph Rats are starting to check their wheel centre. Looks like off centre is factory spec. I'm going to move mine to centre unless somebody gives compelling reason not to. Waiting on specialty spoke wrench from stateside buys me some time.
 
Im thinking that in theory the wheel would not have to be centered between the forks (due to needing room for some item?)..however the front and back path of travel WILL HAVE TO BE ONLINE 100%.

My Z1 was out 1/4 inch but I suppose. I don't like the thought of the front wheel sweeping when steering. There is no need for any of this malarky with ca design.
 
I believe that it's slightly off centre, from what I can remember. I can check my Scrambler (2011) on Friday. I guess you're limited on how far, if at all, you can move the wheel due to the brake caliper. I moved the right fork closer to the wheel to get the spacing on both sides equal at the hub. However all it did was bind and restrict the fork from moving up and down properly so I loosened it up, allowed it to go to its natural position and tighten up the screws again.
 
Ouch, never do that. Tighten your axle, leave the pinch bolt loose. Stroke the fork against a wall while bike is upright. Don't use brake for this. Let the forks find a set. While you hold the bike upright have an assistant tighten the pinch bolt. Ideally you should have the fork brace removed for this. Also ideally the fork brace should be re -installed that so that it imparts no inward or outward or twisting tension on the legs.
 
^^^^ This .... I learned myself the hard way. Little way off could mean a lot of problems. .... on my bike it produced really nasty chatter under braking because it was forcing the pads to apply uneven pressure.

The only thing I would add is make sure you are tightening the correct side first as far as pinch bolts ..... it is a no brainer once you do it, but can be easily mixed up. Always tighten the floating side last ....
 
My Z1 was out 1/4 inch but I suppose. I don't like the thought of the front wheel sweeping when steering. There is no need for any of this malarky with ca design.

There has to be some reason for doing things that way, but who knows what it is. Don't suppose it corresponds with the side that the exhaust hangs off of?
 
There has to be some reason for doing things that way, but who knows what it is. Don't suppose it corresponds with the side that the exhaust hangs off of?

Even the hotshots on the Triumph site haven't come up with a plausible explanation. I thought about the exhaust too but then shouldn't the wheel be pulled to the other side? BTW, those mufflers are very heavy for the size. I cut them apart, what a labyrinth. Hard to believe the engine could even breath.
 
Oh wait, I think I get it now. It's because of mass the brake rotor on only the one side. I am having a seriously difficult time trying to express this thought in a sentence.
 

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