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Urban Gear vs Long Ride Gear

MaksTO

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So I'm pretty serious about my ATGATT habits. Wear armored jacket, gloves, jeans, and shoes everywhere I go (helmet obviously). And the few times I haven't, I felt exposed and naked and very uncomfortable on the bike.

My question is regarding the possible differences in hazards when riding purely in the city (i.e in high congestion, rarely going over 50-60kph), vs doing longer, higher speed rides. Seems like impact is more of a threat in the city, and sliding is less, whereas long rides you'll likely impact, and then possibly hit something (like a guardrail or a tree). Both unpleasant anyways.

Obviously the safest thing to do in any case is just wearing a full leather race suit and chest and back armor etc etc etc with calf length boots. I don't quite do that, but I still feel like I'm relatively well protected with the Kevlar/D3O and riding specific boots (they are more like riding sneakers, but they are ankle height and have protection nevertheless.

I am at the point where I plan to invest in more gear this summer, since wearing the same jacket and jeans every day for 2+ seasons can get a little gross, especially when it's mega hot outside.

Looking at getting a pair of pants that's slimmer cut and breathes better than my Resurgence cafe racers, and a jacket that has more lining options (see: waterproof/windproof liners). I currently have an Olympia Dallas which is a tad big on me, so in the summer the mesh breathes well, but I can also layer a sweater under, and a big jacket over to cover the wind at least. Also looking at getting a pair of touring type boots that I can tuck my pants INTO. I need calf protection now that my new bike roasts my right leg when stationary, but also baggy pants just look weird as hell on my lanky ***.


Just curious what you all do for apparel rotations, and how you seek out new gear. Hard to find stuff in person because stores are far apart and they don't have as many options as online stores.
 
Pants into boots equals wet feet. I always have pants over boots.

I normally wear textile although I recognize I am sacrificing some protection for comfort. If someone made textile with leather around the joints, they can take my money tomorrow. You are not going to burn through a big surface in contact with the road, but focused loads at joints melt textile almost instantly (and the armour will 100% of the time move out of the way as soon as you start to slide). I have a mesh suit and a solid suit depending on weather (I bought the mesh suit in Guelph on a frigging hot day where sweat was dripping out of my solid pants).

Always tall proper riding boots. Learned the hard way after an ankle injury. See recent boot thread for more opinions on this. Never again will I wear anything else on a bike for any ride, no matter how short.

Always leather gauntlet gloves with the strap tight at the wrist and gauntlet over the jacket. Shorties don't protect the very vulnerable and highly likely to hit point just at your wrist. Gauntlet over the jacket helps stop the jacket from catching and sliding up your arm.
 
I buy my gear for different riding styles. First started out riding in the city, short cuff gloves, moto sneakers, jeans and a leather jacket, then turned into a combination of touring and city-hopping where i need the comfort, function, and a little off the bike style if i don't want to pack too much for the evenings (gauntlet gloves, dainese trq gore-tex boots, same city jeans and an aether waterproof textile jacket that is cut slim. i watch a lot of revzilla reviews and stick to euro brands when i want technicality and isn't shaped like a parachute.

Free (or low cost) returns from GP Bikes and F9 are a god-send when you're looking at $300-500 garments.
 
a textile jacket/pants can be washed gently and hung to dry without hurting it
leather is more protective but once it's funky it stays funky

long days of riding I wear the armored textile pants with a pair of long moisture-wicking unders
the under armour types can be rinsed out at night and dry for the next day

the textile pants do not need washed very often - mainly just bug and dirt removal
one pair of jeans to wear at night can go for several days if you're not riding in them

jeans are actually a pretty poor choice for riding pants
all the seams and material bunching cause pressure points

I do not buy riding apparel online, it has to be tried on
 
For warmer weather, I wear mesh gear. The mesh is strategically placed over non-impact zones to provide cooling. Typical impact points like shoulders, knees, hips and elbows are reinforced with abrasion-resistant panels and armored underneath.

If you prefer stronger material, there are perforated leather suits/jackets/pants, as well as hybrid gear with mesh panels for cooling and leather panels in the impact zones.

There are many options.
 
Thanks for all the info!

Will look into Gauntlet gloves as a long distance alternative to my current ones, which cover the wrist, but barely.

Will likely keep my mesh jacket that I have now for the hottest days, and will look for something with removable waterproof shells for cooler/wetter riding.

Shoes wise, I see lots of ADV guys using Forma, which I will have to try on.

Pants wise, going euro might be the best choice since they have less baggy sizing it seems. Found these Dainese pants on F9, but can't tell if they are women's or not. Seems women love them for the slimness. So might work for me as that's what I'm looking for as well.
 
those are mens pants

all the Euro gear is styled to make you look like a metro-sexual power ranger
whereas the NA touring gear makes you look like a blob

comfort and protection should win out over looks
 
Shoes wise, I see lots of ADV guys using Forma, which I will have to try on.
Not sure about those. They look like they may not have support through the ankle. You are looking for an exoskeleton, not just a bit of padding. You want crash forces to get transferred around your ankle instead of through it.

EDIT:
Upon further review. Hell no. You look like a power ranger with very little benefit. They acknowledge they are shite and you should buy something better if you want protection. The ones they recommend if you value your ankles have the exoskeleton.
From link on Adventure boots:
"Due to the special lightweight sole design, these boots are not recommended for use with kick-start bikes or bikes with aggressive motocross style foot-pegs. These boots have limited offroad protection, and if you are a rider that mostly stands up when you ride, we recommend the Forma Terra Evo boots."
Pic of Terra Evo boots that probably actually work.
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Never had a problem unless a car hit me.
It impacted pretty good, in hindsight a back protector would have been brilliant, didn't need anything else because I stayed on the bike when it became a hood ornament.
.... did you know: BMW rear end crash tests their motorcycles! <- she works (y)
 
What kind of bike do you ride?

I find that a lot of people end up wearing what their riding buddies wear, out of conformity, peer pressure, whatever.

Big ATGATT guy I know switched from sportbikes to Harleys.

He always used to ride in full leathers, back protector, racing boots. Used to call the guys in jeans and sneakers "squids".

Now he wears a leather vest, jeans and construction boots. *SMH*

Rationalizes it by saying he "doesn't go that fast anymore"...
 
Rationalizes it by saying he "doesn't go that fast anymore"...

I have shown my multiple time crashed / repaired once piece suit to quite a few students over the years. They *ALWAYS* say "yeah, but that was on a race track, and I don't plan on doing that..." - to which I reply, "Well, this spot (point to a repair here) happened at a hair pin turn, no faster than 50 km/h. This spot here (point at another spot) happened at about 80 km/h when the back wheel slid out on me... so, you think you'll never ride 50 or 80 km/h on your non-supersport bike?"

In my experience, the students who want to ride sport bikes are much more open to the ATGATT idea than students planning on buying cruisers. Something to do with the mindset I guess. *shrug*
 
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I have leather for days it makes sense, textile for off road since washing mud out of leather is awful and some mesh for stinking hot days, but I'd rather sweat than freeze. I can take a fair amount of heat but being chilly pisses me off.
 
My faves for jacket and pants are Klim Dakars. Solid and affordable and very well vented — if you get the light colours, you are good even on the hottest summer days. Add a sweatshirt and your good down to 5 degrees. When it's really cold I have a Technic -- sadly these are no longer produced.

I don't wear riding pants for intown and urban riding (and a lot of time while on the open road). I like my Dakar’s as they are comfortable for warm weather touring and for adventure riding, have a Joe Rocket pair for the cold and wet.

Gauntlets are a no brainer.

My feet get covered with Wellington boots. They are tough as nails, comfortable, and you can wear them as regular shoes when you come off the bike. If I had to get riding boots, I'd splurge on Gaerne Balanced Oil boots.
 
I have shown my multiple time crashed / repaired once piece suit to quite a few students over the years. They *ALWAYS* say "yeah, but that was on a race track, and I don't plan on doing that..." - to which I reply, "Well, this spot (point to a repair here) happened at a hair pin turn, no faster than 50 km/h. This spot here (point at another spot) happened at about 80 km/h when the back wheel slid out on me... so, you think you'll never ride 50 or 80 km/h on your non-supersport bike?"

In my experience, the students who want to ride sport bikes are much more open to the ATGATT idea than students planning on buying cruisers. Something to do with the mindset I guess. *shrug*
Maybe in the beginning... pretty rare to see a shirtless rider in shorts & flipflops on a cruiser.
 
In my experience, the students who want to ride sport bikes are much more open to the ATGATT idea than students planning on buying cruisers. Something to do with the mindset I guess. *shrug*

It's image.

For a lot of riders, motorcycles are very much a lifestyle accessory. Cruiser guys want to look like Jesse James or a member of the Sons of Anarchy, so a doo-rag and T-shirt that shows off their full-sleeve tats is the image they're aiming for:

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The target image for most sportbikers looks like this:

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The fact that it just happens to also be ATGATT is just an unintentional side-effect.
 
True. But you will need a milk-crate topcase if you really want to fit in.

Definitely will not be doing that hahaha.

If I do cases I'll be fabricating custom T-34 style side cylinders likely :ROFLMAO: . That or just strap a large bag to the back.

At the end of the day I am commuting a vast majority of the time, so spending money on touring bags and stuff is not really sensical for me yet. Maybe I'll turn, but not yet. I'd rather treat my KLR like a military vehicle than an ADV bike.
 

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