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Shaman

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thanks.
 
Like it hints in the article, I did google "hot Italian".
Guess what showed up? A pizza.
No Ducati's :(
 
Like it hints in the article, I did google "hot Italian".
Guess what showed up? A pizza.
No Ducati's :(

Turn off your Safe Search. ;)
 
Like with many of the UK based magazine shoot-outs and reviews, they greatly exagerate the subtle differences for both comical and verbose effect. Their description of the ride feel of the Panigale is considerably off. The make no mention of its agility or handling and are flat wrong about it's "nothing nothing nothing....then bang at 8k rpm". Like any power band there is a surge at or near peak torque and there is definately no "on switch" like characteristic with the Pani.

I can't speak for the BMW, or the Aprilia, but it seems the Pani's review is not accurate. Older Ducatis frequently were felt to require more effort to make it go fast, especially in the corners. The Pani is unlike previous Ducatis in this respect and has much better handling than my previous 2009 ZX10R. When back on the ZX10R it feels slow in handling and bloated in size, though the power band is noticibly wider.

I get more feedback from the Pani front end than I do the ZX10R and I am not expert enough to notice any lateral flexibility in the frame vs no-frame design in the corners. But in terms of normal flexibility the vague front end remark is not accurate either.

In terms of adjusting the suspension on the fly...it is no mere "over hyped complication". From softening all settings in the rain, to shortening the throttle rotations like a 1/5th throttle insert, to stiffening the suspension in race mode, to fully customizable settings in all 3 modes, it has been remarkable ungimmicky and useful. I commute every day and when I don't feel like getting tossed about on TO's torn up downtown roads, switching to rain mode on the fly is extremely useful....not to mention when it starts to rain!

If I feel like riding like a hooligan, maybe after a lunch nap and a coffee, a quick change to race mode and...you get the idea.

I have adjusted settings on the way to work at an intersection light to notice I can enter certain on ramps radically faster and smoother within a couple clicks at a red light. No need to wait till I get home to experiment with settings and remembering clicks out and rotations or fiddling all day at the track.

Want that classic Vtwin tire skipping engine braking for sh*ts and giggles? Or prefer smooth corner entries with a planted rear? You decide as you wait for the garage door to open.

I'll let you know if my lap times improve or I just think I did a lap like a hero when I hit the track in a couple weeks. If I can't at least match my ZX10R times at Cayuga I'll concede that point in the review.
 
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That Ducati is only getting 70 miles to a 17 litre tank?

Wow.
 
Just to address a couple of things: the electronic suspension is routinely junked by racers. For competition, it is a gimmick that doesn't work at the track. For casual track day goers and street riders, your milage may vary, as they say. I wouldn't say no to it myself, but its application does have limits.

But it is telling that both the Panigale forum and the RSV4 forum is full of people that traded their Panigale in for a RSV4 Factory and are very happy with their decision. Not all things are good to all people, and frankly I think that is a fine thing. There is a general consensus that the 1199 is more adrenaline rush than refined performer, and whether you agree with it or not there are many people who have made a decision to change.

That said it is a beautiful bike and if you like it, I definitely do not blame you. It's far more exciting than anything that Japan has put out in many a year. Hopefully you won't have the shock, crankshaft or display issues that are being regularly reported for that model. :(

I have a pic to share with you from Calabogie last year:

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I think that 8K comment was from the previous Duc.
 
That Ducati is only getting 70 miles to a 17 litre tank?

Wow.

If you're having lotsa fun on it, thereabouts.

The light on my 1198 comes on after 100 clicks :( damn 15.5L tank....
 

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