Tell me again why you need hyper-sport tires on the street?

[Katatonic]

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To the riders who ‘need’ hyper-sport tires for strictly street use, please tell me why?
I took my adventure touring bike to Calabogie, which has Michelin Pilot Road 5 touring tires on it, and used it as my rain bike. On both a damp and dry track I was dragging pegs on both sides.
So why the ‘need’ for something so aggressive for street use?

(As a side note, a Kawasaki Versys 1000 makes for an awesome rain bike and is actually a LOT of fun on the track!)

 

[GreyGhost]

Style points? The tread pattern on your tires doesn't look fast. From a practical perspective, buy a super-sport bike and manufacturers make mostly super-sport tires for it. They know that most people want them even if the majority of riders would probably be better off with a sport-touring tire (or at least hard centre, soft sides).

 

[KWDRZ]

If Road 5's were cheaper I get the argument but honestly they are ungodly expensive (albeit good tires....) so not hard to justify something with objectivetely a softer compound and more grip for people who won't even use a full set in a season. (5-10k KM/year). I'd take a Q3+ over Road 5 in most situations.

 

[bigpoppa]

no sport/sport touring tires available for certain sizes (200-55-17)

Id love to get a the PR5 for the SDR

 

[Katatonic]

If Road 5's were cheaper I get the argument but honestly they are ungodly expensive (albeit good tires....) so not hard to justify something with objectivetely a softer compound and more grip for people who won't even use a full set in a season. (5-10k KM/year). I'd take a Q3+ over Road 5 in most situations.

There are so many sport touring tires available that are much cheaper.
- Dunlop Road Smart (3’s, 4’s….I don’t know what number they’re up to but they’re great tires!)
- Angel St
- Even previous gen Michelin Pilot Roads are still available and still very good

I’m sure there are others, and they’re all very good.
A question for you though, why do tires need to be done at the end of a season? If someone is only riding 5,000kms in a season, why not get a good set of sport touring tires that will last them 3-4 seasons?

 

[Dr.Manhattan]

Might be confidence for some people. They feel better about leaning the bike over further if they have a super sport tire instead of a touring or dual compound tire. I don't mind paying money for something stickier just for the small peace of mind it offers.

 

[SunnY S]

To the riders who ‘need’ hyper-sport tires for strictly street use, please tell me why?
I took my adventure touring bike to Calabogie, which has Michelin Pilot Road 5 touring tires on it, and used it as my rain bike. On both a damp and dry track I was dragging pegs on both sides.
So why the ‘need’ for something so aggressive for street use?

(As a side note, a Kawasaki Versys 1000 makes for an awesome rain bike and is actually a LOT of fun on the track!)

for the same reason ppl buy (insert any 0-60 in 3 seconds) car for ontario streets and the new street racing laws which makes them useless.

because we can.

 

[Michael0124]

question I have is why do some riders put a sport tire on the front and sport touring on the rear? I've heard the whole rear wears faster argument so the st tire should wear evenly with the front, but it doesn't seem logical from a handling and safety pov.

 

[GreyGhost]

question I have is why do some riders put a sport tire on the front and sport touring on the rear? I've heard the whole rear wears faster argument so the st tire should wear evenly with the front, but it doesn't seem logical from a handling and safety pov.

At least that maximizes braking. :/

 

[Katatonic]

Might be confidence for some people. They feel better about leaning the bike over further if they have a super sport tire instead of a touring or dual compound tire. I don't mind paying money for something stickier just for the small peace of mind it offers.

Ok, I get that argument. I’ve done a lot of irrational things for the sake of peace of mind.

 

[PrivatePilot]

How many of the same riders putting tires like that on their bike end up with tires like this inside a short period of time?

 

[matt365]

Sport touring tires get up to temp quickly for the road.

In the wet, or at a slower pace on track? They'll hold up fine.

I cooked a brand new set of pirelli angel st at the Dragon a few years back. They turned blue and balled up pretty good.
Took the same bike with those cooked pirellis to Mosport rdt. I was dragging knee and passing guys on their fancy bmw s1000rr with my $2,000 beater, leaving black lines on corner exits. Front tire gave me a few warnings that it was going to give up. I didn't listen. Lowsided.

At a feverish track pace, they will overheat.



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[Lightcycle]

This thread needs more drama.

Bump:

 

[-Maverick-]

Not many superbikes on the road anymore period. The trend died ~ 2012.

The guy formerly known as Mladin.

 

[Lightcycle]

Not many superbikes on the road anymore period. The trend died ~ 2012.

I've noticed this as well.

I attribute it to many different factors: insurance, an aging motorcycle rider demographic choosing more ergonomically comfortable bikes, the rising popularity of the ADV segment.

 

[-Maverick-]

I've noticed this as well.

I attribute it to many different factors: insurance, an aging motorcycle rider demographic choosing more ergonomically comfortable bikes, the rising popularity of the ADV segment.

HTA-172

The guy formerly known as Mladin.

 

[Scuba Steve]

Why would 172 matter this is worldwide not only Ontario which a tiny market

 

[Wingboy]

This thread needs more drama.

Bump:

Darksiders irritate me.
Wtf is the tube tacked on beside the reflector?

 

[SVeezy]

Darksiders irritate me.
Wtf is the tube tacked on beside the reflector?

Drain for his beer cooler?


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[BigEvilDoer]

question I have is why do some riders put a sport tire on the front and sport touring on the rear? I've heard the whole rear wears faster argument so the st tire should wear evenly with the front, but it doesn't seem logical from a handling and safety pov.

I run mixed sport/ST pretty much all the time.
Sport on the front, ST on the back.
So far, I have found that the Q3+/Roadsmart 3 and the Pirelli Rossi 3/Angel ST are great combinations.

As Katatonic can attest, we run pretty good paces down at the Dragon, and haven’t had any issues with these combos, ever.

Got a Michelin Pilot Power front for a great price so I thought I’d try it. Still have an Angel ST on the rear. Maybe it’s a combo of tires, but I really don’t like how vague the Pilot Power feels. Just no real feedback and generally blasé.

Once the Angel ST is done (by end of season for sure) the Pilot Power is coming off too. I’ve got a Roadsmart 3 rear in the basement, so I will buying a Q3+ front.

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