Suzuki car owners.

People are going to the cheaper Korean cars. Better value.
 
Too late. After the news hits the wire, it's too late to hit the "sell" button. The price has already gone down.

Suzuki Canada will have a difficult time with their US partner having ceased operations.
 
Doesn't their line-up consist of...

  • A rebadged Chev Malibu (the 'Kizachi')?
  • An outdated SUV with a most generic Japanese name (Grand Vitara)?
  • An outdated microcar with a chopped-off tail that looks fugly (the Suzuki SX-4)?
  • A rebadged Nissan Frontier V6 (Equator)?

No wonder they're kicking ***** and taking names. Not like their cars had any resale to begin with. I'd only buy one of those cars for 70% of MSRP or less.

Nothing wrong with those cars - or the cars they're based off of. But it's not like they're adding anything to the landscape per se.
 
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Aren't some of GM's little soccer ball cars rebadged Suzukis?
 
Aren't some of GM's little soccer ball cars rebadged Suzukis?

It's all Daewoo's fault.
They used to build for Suzuki & GM / Chevy (Aveo, Optra, Epica / Malibu). If they had been thinking, they would have installed an OBD2 scanner with the cars.
My son has (or had?) an Epica. His g/f has the Aveo. The MIL is always on both cars, or comes on shortly after repairing, or erasing the light. Also, 7L per oil change on a 2.5V6 (Epica).......now there's some thoughtful engineering. :confused:
 
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Sir, today is your lucky day ! The SX-4 msrp has been reduced approx. 30%

2012 SX4 jE SEDAN
Going on now - - $4,000 FACTORY TO DEALER CREDIT
MSRP: $17,300
With factory credit: NOW ONLY $13,300

PS: It has a trunk also...

Not a bad deal.

http://www.suzuki.ca/assets/cms/Suzuki_Drive_To_Decide_Ontario.pdf

I'm still quite contentedly driving an 11-year-old Accord which runs fine.

But yeah, if I were new car shopping, that is a smokin' deal.

I thought the Kisashi was badge-engineered. It has the Ecotec right? I don't actually mind the 2008-on Malibu, have driven one and it's OK.
 
Doesn't their line-up consist of...

  • A rebadged Chev Malibu (the 'Kizachi')?
  • An outdated SUV with a most generic Japanese name (Grand Vitara)?
  • An outdated microcar with a chopped-off tail that looks fugly (the Suzuki SX-4)?
  • A rebadged Nissan Frontier V6 (Equator)?

No wonder they're kicking ***** and taking names. Not like their cars had any resale to begin with. I'd only buy one of those cars for 70% of MSRP or less.

Nothing wrong with those cars - or the cars they're based off of. But it's not like they're adding anything to the landscape per se.

The Kizashi is a proper Suzuki. It most certainly has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the GM Epsilon platform (Malibu, etc).

IIRC the Grand Vitara XL7 shares the previous-generation GM Chevrolet Equinox / GMC Terrain platform and uses the GM "high feature" V6 engine. The regular Grand Vitara has some GM engineering and parts in it but is a rather different vehicle.

The SX-4 is a real Suzuki. But it's also sold in Europe as a Fiat Sedici. It's a Suzuki design, though.

The Equator is indeed a badge engineered Nissan, but it isn't sold in Canada.

Suzuki has rid themselves of the old Daewoos that were badged as Suzukis ... but they haven't rid themselves of the damage that did to their name and reputation.

Aren't some of GM's little soccer ball cars rebadged Suzukis?

No ... It's complicated.

Back when GM had substantial ownership of Suzuki, they replaced a lot of the "proper" Suzuki vehicles in the North American market with re-badged Daewoos. (Daewoo is GM Korea.) At the same time, they sold a number of those vehicles with Chevrolet badges on them. All of those vehicles were garbage, and this ruined what little reputation that Suzuki had in North America. When GM got out, Suzuki stopped selling Daewoos and replaced them with real Suzukis ... but the damage was done. GM has kept right on selling Daewoos with their own badges on them. But to be absolutely clear, these are not Suzukis, even though they were sold under that name at one time. They are Daewoos.

The Chevrolet Aveo was a Daewoo. It was sold at the same time as a Suzuki Swift in North America. But this was not the "real" Suzuki Swift that the rest of the world got. That was one of the big reputation-destroyers.

FWIW the replacement for the Aveo is the Chevrolet Sonic, which is assembled in North America but still using a lot of GM Korea engineering and parts (and is a much better vehicle). It's still sold elsewhere in the world as an Aveo.

Confused yet? That's only the beginning.
 
OK, fair. Is the Kizashi's engine a Suzuki design, or is it the Ecotec? Not that that sets the tone for the entire car... and the Ecotec is a decent enough motor.

Even before getting Daewoos pawned on them, I wouldn't have really pegged Suzuki as a very successful automaker. You rarely see hype for new product introductions, and of the cars they make only one (Kizashi) was launched in the 2010's. I wouldn't really consider the cars they based the Grand Vitara off of (Equinox/Terrain) to be class-leading.
 
It's all Daewoo's fault.
They used to build for Suzuki & GM / Chevy (Aveo, Optra, Epica / Malibu). If they had been thinking, they would have installed an OBD2 scanner with the cars.
My son has (or had?) an Epica. His g/f has the Aveo. The MIL is always on both cars, or comes on shortly after repairing, or erasing the light. Also, 7L per oil change on a 2.5V6 (Epica).......now there's some thoughtful engineering. :confused:

Epica was an L6. Got decent reviews too.

Based on the people I know who had a Suzuki and my time working Suzuki roadside assistance, they were solid cars. The brand just didn't occupy any mental space, particularly amongst US consumers. Sad to see them go.
 
I'm very confident the Kizashi is entirely a Suzuki design from the ground up.

From all the reviews I read, its a decent car. Just that for the asking price, there are better alternatives.

If it was on fire sale, and i needed a decent reliable sedan, I'd jump on one.




Edit : Car and Driver did a long term test on one.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2010-suzuki-kizashi-long-term-road-test-wrap-up-review


That's exactly how I see it too. Wouldn't rush to go buy one, but make it cheap and I'd take one.

...once my 2001 Accord finally kicks the can, which could take a while :)

Low resale's really just an opportunity in disguise - if it comes with reliability and parts availability.
 
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The Kizashi uses a Suzuki engine ... not a GM Ecotec.

The Ecotecs were - and still are - in the Daewoo vehicles (some of which were badged as Suzukis during the era of GM part ownership).
 
I'm very confident the Kizashi is entirely a Suzuki design from the ground up.

From all the reviews I read, its a decent car. Just that for the asking price, there are better alternatives.

If it was on fire sale, and i needed a decent reliable sedan, I'd jump on one.




Edit : Car and Driver did a long term test on one.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2010-suzuki-kizashi-long-term-road-test-wrap-up-review

That Car and Driver review is very positive, all things consider
Kizashi too has $4,000 off in Ontario right now - but the msrp is higher than the SX-4 (which has the same discount), so the Kizashi doesn't sound like a smoking deal (yet)
 
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