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mma01

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If anyone has had this work down recently, can you give me an idea on what a fair price is? I have only received one quote so far and its worked out to 3.40/sq ft for BASF walltite ECO at R19 for the basement and a small crawl space.

Any recommendations for someone in the Toronto area would also be appreciated.
 
I've done this recently, I used Tiger Foam kit, worked out to about $2.50 sq ft and i had to spray it. Its not as good a product as BASF walltite but my needs were different.
Open cell and closed cell foams are different, and costs can be a very big spread. You want BASF walltite, its insulation, vapour barrier all in one. Its adds structural stiffness to framing and has good acoustic properties. Based on my research and the guys I know in the business through my contractor pal $3.40 is about the going rate for basement work.
Remember that spraying out a commercial building doesnt have the PITA factor a basement job has. The contractor has about $80g's tied up in equipment to do this work.

its expensive compared to glass batt or even foam board but it does a very through and clean job and its done in a couple hours.
 
I have been told you can get a one time use kit that costs approx 800 bucks, and will do 600 sq ft, one inch thick....looking to do a couple of crawl spaces....I have been told it is not an inexpensive process...
 
I'm having my new house done with it, down here near Kingston. Not the same exact product maybe, but close enough. I'm assuming that R19 is about 3.5 inches? You're talking $0.97 per board foot then. That's better than the price I got and it's going to take them two days to do my job.
 
Check out the Cufca site and get a few quotes done.

http://www.cufca.ca/home_e.php

That's the Canadian Urethane constractors site, on the top left there's a tab to find a contractor, Ontario has a big selection.

In theory I've seen the average can be anywhere from a buck a board foot to $2.50+. A board foot is 12" x 12" x 1" of thickness. I'm going to go on a limb and guess your contractor quoted you on 3" thick at that square footage so that would be in the range that I've seen. Question is was it 2lbs density foam, closed cell.

The DYI kits are good for smaller arear and if you want to do the job in sections. a typical 600 kits like the tiger foam, rivenco, Nuco, froth pack etc etc will yield around 500 to 600 board feet. It's a temperature sensitive product since it's in a pressurised container so you want to make sure you shake the kits really well and keep them at 27 degree C or as close as you can. You will lose allot of yeild if you dont shake the kits or keep them in the cold.

So that being said, what size is the area you are planning on shooting?

Foam is a tricky business cause allot of people think it's cheaper to do it yourself but there's some contractors out there that offer really good pricing and they come in and do it for you. Rest assured that it's worth every penny.

Let me know if you need any help and I'll be happy to help.
 
Thanks for the all of the suggestions. The quote I got was for 2lb closed cell BASF walltite. I'll get more quotes from the links provided.

There are many things I dont mind doing on my own but spray foam isnt one of them.
 
Im assuming i could use this stuff on my garage ceiling? There is insulation in there but it must be some cheap @ss stuff though, the room above the garage is really cold in the winter and then summer when the ac is on doesnt quite cool down like the rest of the house.
I would have to tear down all the drywall though and pull that old insulation out : ( do you guys think this spray insulation would help my problem though?
 
ajaxguy said:
Im assuming i could use this stuff on my garage ceiling? There is insulation in there but it must be some cheap @ss stuff though, the room above the garage is really cold in the winter and then summer when the ac is on doesnt quite cool down like the rest of the house.
I would have to tear down all the drywall though and pull that old insulation out : ( do you guys think this spray insulation would help my problem though?
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Yes

The R value for the 2 lbs density closed cell foam is 6 per inch, the perm rating is equal to a vapor barrier at 3" of thickness

The main component or feature for spray foam is it seals tight, there's no gaps. also remember that Fiberglas insulation, once it's compressed of shoved in a whole it loses it's r value so if you got some cheap insulation up there or plus someone that put it up there sloppy then it will make a difference. You will also see a sound difference.

The problem for foam is this, it's not cheap so if you plan on moving soon, you probably wont get your money back but if you plan on staying a while then you will see a big difference. ask anyone with a spray foamed house and i can guaranty they will tell you there was a big difference.

Ajax, add up your area in square feet and PM it to me, I'll quote you on it, Using these kits http://www.rivenco.com/two-component-foams/pre-pressurized-portable-two-component-froth-systems.html

If you want to have someone do it for you, Gixxer's link and the cufca site is a great place to get good information.
 
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Wish I had of started this thread 2 wks ago. I just gutted, fixed the foundation cracks reinsulated and re drywalled my basement with roxul, typar and vapor barrier. Thought about foam but didn't know enough about it.
 
DaFrEnCh-TiCkLeR said:
Check out the Cufca site and get a few quotes done.

http://www.cufca.ca/home_e.php

That's the Canadian Urethane constractors site, on the top left there's a tab to find a contractor, Ontario has a big selection.

In theory I've seen the average can be anywhere from a buck a board foot to $2.50+. A board foot is 12" x 12" x 1" of thickness. I'm going to go on a limb and guess your contractor quoted you on 3" thick at that square footage so that would be in the range that I've seen. Question is was it 2lbs density foam, closed cell.

The DYI kits are good for smaller arear and if you want to do the job in sections. a typical 600 kits like the tiger foam, rivenco, Nuco, froth pack etc etc will yield around 500 to 600 board feet. It's a temperature sensitive product since it's in a pressurised container so you want to make sure you shake the kits really well and keep them at 27 degree C or as close as you can. You will lose allot of yeild if you dont shake the kits or keep them in the cold.

So that being said, what size is the area you are planning on shooting?

Foam is a tricky business cause allot of people think it's cheaper to do it yourself but there's some contractors out there that offer really good pricing and they come in and do it for you. Rest assured that it's worth every penny.

Let me know if you need any help and I'll be happy to help.
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All this and the guy also does wedding D'Jing .. ****ing amazing
 
The biggest difference I see, and I'm on a lot of construction sites, is the guys that spray this stuff regularly know what the expansion rate will come out like and spray accordingly. There is little trimming with the bread knife to level surfaces to the studs and joists to fit drywall. The learning curve can be pretty steep for newbies.
I've seen some guys have this stuff sprayed everywhere but where it was supposed to be, some jobs are best left to practiced people.

The biggest factor is how fast these guys can be in and out and the quality of the product is hard to beat.
 
crankcall said:
The biggest difference I see, and I'm on a lot of construction sites, is the guys that spray this stuff regularly know what the expansion rate will come out like and spray accordingly. There is little trimming with the bread knife to level surfaces to the studs and joists to fit drywall. The learning curve can be pretty steep for newbies.
I've seen some guys have this stuff sprayed everywhere but where it was supposed to be, some jobs are best left to practiced people.

The biggest factor is how fast these guys can be in and out and the quality of the product is hard to beat.
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Agreed 100%

Most of the issues I typically face are end user related. It's like a good painter, you think your good untill you hire a good pro and he makes you look like a 3 year old with crayons lol

That's why anytime I hear guys talk about 2000 square feet plus even if it means I'll lose I typically refer them to contractors. In and out and typically the contractors in teh foam biz arent that expensive when you factor all the costs in.
 
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