This helmet is driving me crazy with how it twists my head when raising the visor with one hand. During this recent spell of hot weather where I was opening it frequently while in start stop traffic it actually made my neck sore... Anybody know of a way to smoothen out the mechanism? Is this model just a bad design or do I have a dud?
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Shoei RF1200 visor lock - what were they thinking?
- Thread starter Tango5
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It was Shoei's intention to try and man you up a little - building your neck muscles and finger strength so that you can pop the visor without looking like a fragile rider with your neck about to fall off. LOL - in all seriousness, my GT-AIR is just the same. It does take what seems like an unnecessary amount of pressure to pop the lid from the closed position.
LOL
yeah unnecessary amount of pressure is a good way to put it. It's most pronounced when one hand is occupied holding the clutch and I reach across with my right hand to open it.
conundrum
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Twists your head how? I don't have a 1200 yet (still using my older 1100 for another year or so), but almost sounds like your helmet is too big if it is moving when you put up the visor.
Also what about leaving it at the 'cracked' setting? That's typically what I do, since to fully lock it on the 1100 it uses a different mechanism.
Also what about leaving it at the 'cracked' setting? That's typically what I do, since to fully lock it on the 1100 it uses a different mechanism.
Yes there is an adjustment, I have adjusted it but not much difference.
The helmet is a good tight fit, what I mean is that if I don't use a fair bit of resistance with my neck muscles then the force required to crack it open will move your head back and to the side. I think it is a combination of the position of the tab on the visor and where it locks, the tightness of the ratchet mechanism, and reaching around to the left of the visor with my right hand that exacerbates the effect.
Yes, leaving it cracked does help with this issue, but really it's shouldn't be necessary, wasn't with any of my preious helmets.
Yes I think the contributing factors are the position of the tab/lock on the visor and the resistance of the mechanism, although it is at its worst when closed all the way. It's a good suggestion, however I think I would be reluctant to file down the ridge.
Leave it alone.it's amazing how quickly a visor can pop off in a tumble.Without your visor you are very vulnerable to any debris from the tumble.I scared the medics at Bogie a few years ago with a large amount of blood from a cut on my nose.Visor came off and a chunk of my windshield got inside.
conundrum
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Raises the question, how safe is it to ride with it in the cracked position? I must admit I do this 99% of the time, but am starting to rethink it...
It's not really dangerous, you are just running the risk of air catching the visor and blowing it fully open. This is why the mechanism is stiff, of course. I occasionally would ride with the visor cracked (Shoei X-11) on the highway if condensation was becoming an issue (usually only if it was raining very hard, or if it was very cold) and the helmet could hold it in that position no problem.
conundrum
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Well mine hold perfectly fine in that position too...it's just I've always thought in the back of my mind, what would happen in a crash
Oh. Odds are good the visor gets smashed off whether it's open or not, if something makes contact with it
Iceman
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Back in 1990 or so, one of my friends crashed hard right in front of me. He turned out to be fine except for a broken thumb. But his Bieffe full face was destroyed, the chin guard broke clean through and was gone, as was the visor. I never wore my Bieffe again.
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slowbird
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Yeah my RF-1200 is the same. I usually jam my palm on the front of the helmet near the mouth vent and hold the helmet in place while I use my thumb to lift the visor from the locked position.
Even when not in the locked position the visor is difficult to raise without moving the helmet a bit on my head.
Tried the lube that came with the helmet. Doesn't make that much of a difference if any.
Even when not in the locked position the visor is difficult to raise without moving the helmet a bit on my head.
Tried the lube that came with the helmet. Doesn't make that much of a difference if any.
I really wanted to like the RF1200. It was just within my price range, and I was looking for a slightly premium, long term helmet. However, I hated the visor locking mechanism. I hated the Qwest's mechanism too. I ended up with the HJC FG-17 because of that nice centre visor lock. Really locks the visor down, ambidextrous, and easy to pop open when you want it to, while having one of, if not the strongest visor locking mechanisms out there. Not a chintsy one at the hinge, but one at the weakest point for closure.
My previous Icon Alliance had that stupid "Pro Lock" which did hold the visor shut pretty well, but honestly, I found it a pain in the *** to open much like the RF1200, particularly with thicker gloves on.
I prefer one that's a little more difficult to open and close over one that slips down and closes when the wind is too strong.
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