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RELATIVE COST of motorcycle insurance (vs cars)

How much do you pay for insurance RELATIVE to your car


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aataulla

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Ok im a new owner 28 with a 05 Ninja 250 - I just wanted to start another standard thread/poll for whining about insurance rates. What i really wanted to find out if im the only person not making the most out of my insurance on my motorcycle. I know i know that you cant have a discussion about motorcycles, consumption, utility, rationality and price without being trolled but what the hell, here it goes.

I wanted to ask you folks about the EFFECTIVE USAGE and RELATIVE COST of insurance. Here's what i mean:

I'll take my example: I have car and a motorcycle and I use my motorcycle for 4000k per year and my car for around 16000km. Im paying $60/month (M2/SF/28) and $100/month for my car. But effectively i use my car 4 times as much in a year. Not that its relevant but my car's (Corolla) is worth 4 times as much as my bike. So using this very basic and stupid scenario, i feel that on a per mile basis of consumption im paying 4-8 times more for motorcycle usage than for a car. This is not a hard and fast calculation, i know people can own SS motorbikes and shitboxes for cars and vice versa. Furthermore this assessment may be biased by many many many factors or by personal usage patterns.

I dont want a complex discussion on this issue (nor a troll session) - I know what im asking is useless knowledge, wont change anything for rates but it'll help me make peace with my rates so if you could use personal judgement and post how must relative to your car usage/consumption you are paying for a bike it'll be awesome. I know this is not a scientific poll and a lot depends on our personal assessment in this one but it'll let us put in perspective where the average is for a typical biker.

Just note the range between [0-1] means you're paying relatively less for the bike adjusted for year round usage. If you ride your bike year round and clock lots more miles than your car while paying just as much you're in this category. Feel free to post your relative insurance cost numbers below - details car type / miles per year etc are optional.
 
What it will boil down to is showing that, in most cases, a bike is an expensive toy so you pay premium for the use.

When I got my first motorcycle 40ish years ago insurance was 25% of what I paid for my car (Minimum liability only). Bikes were small, squids non-existant and you were on your own for medical coverage. Isn't progress great.
 
I out around 15-20k on my bike and pay $69/month
I put around 15k on my truck and pay $135.

The numbering of this poll has me confused. You say your in the 4-8 category?
Yes you use your car 4 times as much as your bike, but the bike is about half the price? So wouldn't that put you in the 1-4 range if it was insurance vs usage?

If it was just usage then you would be correct.......
 
I out around 15-20k on my bike and pay $69/month
I put around 15k on my truck and pay $135.

The numbering of this poll has me confused. You say your in the 4-8 category?
Yes you use your car 4 times as much as your bike, but the bike is about half the price? So wouldn't that put you in the 1-4 range if it was insurance vs usage?

If it was just usage then you would be correct.......

Actually you make a good point. Its not really a hard and fast numeric calculation. Im using some judgement here and assuming that a basic bike is just like a basic car - that is even though a Corolla is 4 times the cost of a 250 Ninja - they represent the same level of utility on usage. Which is why this makes it a little subjective (read ********) because its hard to say what a 600cc bike would represent in terms of a mid-range sedan and what type of utility/usage benefit a 1000CC SS bike has when compared to a 60/80 thousand dollar sports car.

So to make this comparison fair (what ever that means) - lets stick to usage.

Like the other poster said, bike are toys and you gotta pay for em. Im just curious how much people pay relative to the non-toy vehicles they have!
 
The cost of your motorcycle insurance is based on the frequency/severity of motorcycle claims each year. It really doesn't matter how much people use their bikes in a given year, since the premium reflects the claims. If bike insurance costs about double per km compared to a car, then that's because motorcycle claims are about double per km compared to a car.

Anyway, in response to your informal poll, here is my submission:

Car (07 BMW 328i Coupe) -- $1850/yr. 20,000kms/yr. $0.0925/km.
Bike (01 Suzuki GSXR1000) -- $1100/yr. 5,000kms/yr. $0.2200/km.

Bike-to-Car-Cost-per-KM-Ratio
= $0.2200 / $0.0925
= 2.38
 
Just for fun:

Car, 05 civic DX: 45 000km in 2011, 2400$/yr: 0.05333$/km
bike, 04 vfr 800: 20 000km in 2011, 1800$/yr: 0.09$/km

But, this is not right if we don't talk about maintenance cost also:

Car, 05 civic DX: 45 000km in 2011, 2400$/yr, 1789.48$ for maintenance/expense: 0.09309$/km
bike, 04 vfr 800 : 20 000km in 2011, 1800$/yr, 2306.85$ for maintenance and gears/tools: 0.2053$/km
bike, 04 vfr 800 : 20 000km in 2011, 1800$/yr, 471$ for maintenance only: 0.1135$/km

I put twice my bike, first one is with all gear and tools I bought for me and the girlfriend, meaning, helmet, coat, pants, stands, givi bag etc.
Second one, is actual maintenance. But in both case, the car is wayyyy cheaper than a bike.
 
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You know what's way, way more awesome than thinking about a couple of pennies per kilometer?

Riding a motorcycle <--
 
I think trying to compare the cost of toys to the cost of necessities is kinda pointless.
 
I think trying to compare the cost of toys to the cost of necessities is kinda pointless.

For the record, motorcycles aren't toys to everyone.
 
interesting to compare the 2 :

well...

i bought my st1300 in 2006 and have now 135k on it so that's roughly = 22.5k / yr

i bought my truck in 2007 and now have 120k on it so that's roughly = 24k / yr

now keep in mind I have in the past 5 yrs also owned multiple bikes and put AT LEAST 10k combined on the other bikes / yr ... so i'm really at :

riding 32.5 k / yr vs 24k / yr driving ...


my cost of motorcycles (2 of 3 are insured on my policy right now) is about $1600 in insurance / yr or 20.32 cents / km
my cost of car insurance is about $1100 / yr works out to approx 21.8 cents / km

so my bikes are arguably SOMEWAHT cheaper to run then my truck on a per yr basis ...

i've never thought about it that way tho, so thanks for making me think and find out that owning and riding 2 bikes / yr is cheaper then running my truck !!!
 
interesting to compare the 2 :

well...

i bought my st1300 in 2006 and have now 135k on it so that's roughly = 22.5k / yr

i bought my truck in 2007 and now have 120k on it so that's roughly = 24k / yr

now keep in mind I have in the past 5 yrs also owned multiple bikes and put AT LEAST 10k combined on the other bikes / yr ... so i'm really at :

riding 32.5 k / yr vs 24k / yr driving ...


my cost of motorcycles (2 of 3 are insured on my policy right now) is about $1600 in insurance / yr or 20.32 cents / km
my cost of car insurance is about $1100 / yr works out to approx 21.8 cents / km

so my bikes are arguably SOMEWAHT cheaper to run then my truck on a per yr basis ...

i've never thought about it that way tho, so thanks for making me think and find out that owning and riding 2 bikes / yr is cheaper then running my truck !!!

this is the geek in me ... I kept going on this line of thought of cents / km



since I use approx the same oil change intervals for both car / truck / bikes the cost of oil changes is constant ... but if I add in fuel costs to my calculation then i'm at :

bikes = 6 L / 100km @ 32.5k / yr = 1950 litres burned @ 1.25 / litre = $2437.50 in fuel cost or 7.5 cents / km
truck = 13 L / 100km @ 24k / yr = 3120 litres burned @ 1.25 / litre = $3900 in fuel cost or 16.25 cents / km

however if I add in that I only need to replace truck tires every 75k vs replacing bike tires every 12k (that's my avg so far) ... then i'm at :

32.5k / 12k = 2.7 sets of tires / yr @ $300 / set = $812 in tires per yr or 24.9 cents / km
24k / 75k = 0.32 set of tires / yr @ $800 / set = $256 in tires per yr or 10.6 cents / km

so in total :

bikes (all in cents / km) = 20.32 insurance + 7.5 in fuel + 24.9 in tires = 52.72 cents / km
truck (all in cents / km) = 21.8 insurance + 16.25 in fuel + 10.6 in tires = 48.65 cents / km

so when I add in the aggregated cost of fuel and tires the truck actually comes out cheaper by about 4 cents / km ...
 

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