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Registering a BC Aprilia RS125 in Ontario?

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unL33T

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I know the RS125 is available from a few Ontario dealers as street legal. However, they seem to be priced way lower in BC. Is it still possible to get one of these plated in Ontario if it never was before? Would I run into extra problems (beyond getting the bike here) getting it registered for the street because it's from out of province?

Looking at downgrading to save on gas (a little, the 2 strokes arent great on gas) and insurance and it seems like a unique, interesting, little bike. I know it's impractical and will be expensive to run so no need to tell me what a terrible idea it is. I just want to get an idea on whether it's possible and how much it'll cost me.
 
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/rgoutcan.shtml

[h=2]"To Do" Checklist[/h] [h=3]Licensing Vehicles Registered Out-of-Province[/h]
  1. Completed Application for Registration. A Supplementary Application may be also required if the vehicle is registered to two persons or if the plate and vehicle owners are different. Blank applications are available at Driver and Vehicle Licence Issuing Offices (cannot be downloaded from the Internet).
  2. The original copy of the vehicle registration permit in your name. If the permit is not in your name, a signed Bill of Sale describing the vehicle fully from the seller to you is also required. If you have a Certificate of Title in your name and wish to keep it, you must provide a legible photocopy of the title with the original. The licence office will view the original title, keep the photocopy and return the original to you at the same time. The ministry does not mail back titles to applicants. Make sure you collect your title before you leave the licence office.
  3. A Safety Standards Certificate (<abbr>SSC</abbr>) if the vehicle is registered "fit". This Certificate is not required for new, unregistered vehicles or trailers or motor assisted bicycles (mopeds) or vehicles registered "unfit".
  4. A Drive Clean Vehicle Emissions Pass Report may be required if the vehicle is being registered as 'fit" in the Drive Clean program area. Current and future model year vehicles are exempt. For more information on the Drive Clean Program, call the Drive Clean Call Centre at 1-888-758-2999 or visit the Drive Clean Website. Note: Motorcycles/motor scooters do not have to pass an emission test.
  5. Ontario insurance company's name and policy number if the vehicle is being plated in Ontario.
  6. Odometer information for passenger vehicles, light commercial vehicles (3000 kg or less and for personal and business use only) and buses (non prorate). Heavy commercial vehicles, motorcycles, trailers, off-road vehicles, snowmobiles and mopeds are exempt from the odometer information requirement.
  7. Vehicles that are purchased privately in another Canadian province and brought into or delivered in Ontario after June 30, 2010 will generally be subject to either Retail Sales Tax (RST) or Harmonized Sales Tax (HST) at 13 percent. If you are becoming an Ontario resident, instead of paying the RST, an exemption declaration may be completed at the time of vehicle registration. For plated motor vehicles that are 20 years or older, the RST is payable on the greater of either one of the following:
    • the purchase price
    • the replacement value for insurance purposes
    • the appraised value of the vehicle.
    For other RST exemptions, please contact ServiceOntario's Driver and Vehicle Contact Centre at 416-235-2999 or toll free at 1-800-387-3445 (Canada wide).
    The Ministry of Transportation collects retail sales tax (<abbr>RST</abbr>) on behalf of the Retail Sales Tax Branch of the Ministry of Finance. For further information on RST, please contact them.
  8. Fees: $22 for licence plates and a vehicle permit. The owner will also be required to buy plate validation from the date of vehicle registration to the assigned validation expiry. Fees will be calculated according to the class of vehicle and declaration(s).
    Effective January 1, 2005, all personal cheques must be certified unless payment is sent by mail.
  9. Proof of identity (name, date of birth and signature) for applicant who has never registered a plate or vehicle with this ministry.
  10. Outside Canada - Additional Requirement
    Customs Clearance Form (Vehicle Import Form 1)
For further information, or information about how to license new unregistered vehicles, please complete our online feedback form, or contact ServiceOntario's Driver and Vehicle Contact Centre at 416-235-2999 or toll free at 1-800-387-3445 (Canada wide).
 
IIRC, the kit required to make it street legal was ~$1000. Make sure that you are comparing apples to apples here.
 
GreyGhost said:
IIRC, the kit required to make it street legal was ~$1000. Make sure that you are comparing apples to apples here.
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Bike in BC is $4k from several dealers plus $1k kit. Same bike in Ottawa (only place I've found with one left) is $7k and want $2k for the kit. People are asking $6.5k for rough used ones.

I'm just concerned because I've read a couple things that say if it wasn't for street-registered by sometime in 2008, it's not possible anymore. I'd be awfully annoyed to spend the money on it and only be able to track it.
 
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4K is a pretty awesome price. I think Envy wanted 7+ for the one they had in stock (plus the kit).

Someone is selling one in Toronto street legal (and plated) with 2000 km for $6500 on Kijiji. Only one pic, but looks to be in good shape. It would probably be cheaper than buying from BC.

Good luck, it is always entertaining to see 2 smokes ripping around.
 
Yeah that would probably be easier. The ones from BC don't have a manufacturer warranty, anyway.
 
Won't be difficult to find cheap insurance for an imported bike like that? The RS125 is something like $60/mo to insure in Toronto.
 
I'm thinking that it MAY fall into the same trap as trying to register a dirt bike after 2007 that didn't roll off the factory floor as street legal; it can't be done unless grandfathered... can't see why it would be different. Stupid law, and one of the reasons I sold my street legal WR450 to someone that would use it for the street as I hadn't for the past 2 years. I think you may have to keep looking for blue plated Ontario bikes.
 
I'm told as long as they come with the New Vehicle Information Certificate (as they all do) and I get the lighting kit so it passes a safety, it won't be an issue.
 
unL33T said:
I'm told as long as they come with the New Vehicle Information Certificate (as they all do) and I get the lighting kit so it passes a safety, it won't be an issue.
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So if you already have your answer, why are you asking?
 
coyo said:
So if you already have your answer, why are you asking?
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Because I got that answer yesterday and posted the question before I had that answer. Plus that answer was from one person so maybe someone else has different information as I've also been told by several other people that I will have problems.

My latest responses to this thread were in regards to the suggestion of getting an RS250 from Europe.
 
unL33T said:
Because I got that answer yesterday and posted the question before I had that answer. Plus that answer was from one person so maybe someone else has different information as I've also been told by several other people that I will have problems.

My latest responses to this thread were in regards to the suggestion of getting an RS250 from Europe.
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Fair enough. When I had my WR I enquired about green plating it to save on insurance but wanted to know if that would prevent me from blue plating it again in the future. I called several MTO offices and got varying answers from people at different levels. Eventually I contacted the MTO's head offices and created a paper (email) trail to get a final answer which was; once it's converted back to green plate it would lose it's grandfathered status.

I suggest you start making phone calls at the MTO to find out who to email (unfortunately I deleted all my replies as the outcome was of no use to me) to get your final answer. There's too much uncertainty to take the chance with your money. I know someone who managed to blue plate a dirt bike a few years ago at an MTO office after the 2007 change by someone who obviously didn't understand the new regulations only to have someone catch it a year or so ago and pull the plate.
 
I was told these are different from dirt bikes because they were actually imported as street-legal but sold as track-only because they did not come equipped with the items required to pass a safety inspection (turn signals and whatnot). But I do agree, I should probably call them.
 
unL33T said:
I was told these are different from dirt bikes because they were actually imported as street-legal but sold as track-only because they did not come equipped with the items required to pass a safety inspection (turn signals and whatnot). But I do agree, I should probably call them.
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When I started getting varying answers I realized that I needed someone high enough to commit in writing before making a decision.
 
unL33T said:
Won't be difficult to find cheap insurance for an imported bike like that? The RS125 is something like $60/mo to insure in Toronto.
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I don't see why it would be, maybe call around to a few companies and see? There is a member on this board that rides an RS250.
 
silverbullet132 said:
I don't see why it would be, maybe call around to a few companies and see? There is a member on this board that rides an RS250.
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Yeah I'll do that. At least from my current company just to get an idea. I know just my old 944 is hard to find coverage for because it is too old and it's doesn't have the added complexity of being imported.
 
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Well so far The Personal told me that since it's not in their system at all (they have nothing for Aprilia before 1998 and even after that date they only have scooters and mopeds up until a certain year) they can't tell me whether they would insure it or not. They said with a VIN they could determine that but it would have to be in the MTO database first.

So basically they can't even tell me if they can insure it, or what the rate will be, until after it's already imported and in the MTO database.

Aprilias are already iffy to insure as some companies will just flat out refuse to insure any Aprilias. I've heard the same thing about Ducati. The Personal told me until recently, they denied all Aprilias.

I do like the idea of the 250 instead of the 125 just for those odd times I need/want to 2up. The 125 is going to crawl with that much weight on it.
 
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