Nikola Tesla
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Hmmm who here has got the vaccine? Would be a interesting poll
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Petition to open outdoor activities
- Thread starter RobVN
- Start date
So make a poll in a thread. I would do the poll where it doesn't post who picked what as some people may not want their choice public. I think we are getting to most from almost none not that long ago. Maybe categories of No/Not yet/AZ/Covishield/Pfizer/Moderna
I made one. Go vote!
BigEvilDoer
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Well, I sort of understand why they're not wanting to open sports fields, or RACETRACKS (Oh, the horror! Stupid jerk Ford) -- people will travel outside of their home area to attend these events.
Do we really want a whack of people from Peel (one of the highest infection rates) going to Grand Bend (lower infection rate) to do a track day?
Yes, ABSOLUTELY I WANT TO GO TO TRACK DAYS... Can I wait a couple of weeks? If I must.. sure... sigh.
Do we really want a whack of people from Peel (one of the highest infection rates) going to Grand Bend (lower infection rate) to do a track day?
Yes, ABSOLUTELY I WANT TO GO TO TRACK DAYS... Can I wait a couple of weeks? If I must.. sure... sigh.
I'm not holding out much hope for the SOAR practice weekend - which was originally supposed to be this coming weekend, now tentatively rescheduled to be when round 1 was supposed to be (29-30 May). BUT ...
Peel Region (and Toronto) as of right now, has vaccinated ~50% of eligible adults. Peel wants to vaccinate 150,000 more (about 10% of the region's population) in the next week, and they're planning to keep right on going after that. That's going to put a good dent in that infection rate by the end of May. Enough of a dent? Don't know. Will there be decent ICU capacity by then? Good question. I tend to suspect that the system will take longer than that to recover.
Peel Region (and Toronto) as of right now, has vaccinated ~50% of eligible adults. Peel wants to vaccinate 150,000 more (about 10% of the region's population) in the next week, and they're planning to keep right on going after that. That's going to put a good dent in that infection rate by the end of May. Enough of a dent? Don't know. Will there be decent ICU capacity by then? Good question. I tend to suspect that the system will take longer than that to recover.
Docs are pushing for <200 covid patients in ICU. Currently at 838. Now I don't know if ford will give that to them.
ifiddles
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@Brian P here you go..
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Mad Mike
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Peel is a dogs breakfast.
They need a lockdown, curfew and maybe road closures.
The city of Toronto has some surprising race stats on their website (surprising as this is generally quite politically incorrect). I won’t post the details (find them yourself) but it’s quite startling the differences in their racial profiles.
Malks
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If the current lockdown was the answer then wouldn't the numbers be well below 3,000 a day? We've been in the latest lockdown since April 8, certainly long enough that there should have been a marked improvement, but the numbers are still pretty close to where they were back in early April. But let's just keep doing this lockdown crap and hope for better results!
And now we hear from Dr. Tam that even a fully vaccinated person should still adhere to lockdown, mask and distancing protocols. Are we all supposed to stay locked-up for the rest of our lives? Sorry, but I'm finding anything the Federal or Provincial governments, or their "experts" have to say increasingly contradictory and untrustworthy.
If travel was considered to be a real issue then it's going to get interesting when all the cottage owners start migrating from the GTA to their summer homes. You might as well be locked up somewhere nice if you can work remotely from anywhere. And let's not forget how many motorcycle riders like to go for long rides all around Ontario, stopping to get gas, food and drinks. And while we're on the topic of travel, what about all those international flights arriving with Covid positive passengers? Yet the Federal government keeps telling us that those numbers are so low there is no cause for alarm.
I have no concerns going into any store during this pandemic. Mask up and sanitize and you're good. I would be curious to hear just what the transmission numbers are that can be attributed to shopping, but I'm not so curious to go look it up. If, as you say "inside is bad", then they should let us play outside and enjoy the summer.
What we're in, isn't a "lockdown". We've never had a "lockdown".
Agree that there needs to be incentives/rewards to being fully vaccinated. Agree that a lot of the rules, particularly those concerning outdoor activities, don't make a lot of sense. The problem isn't the local park ... it's the Amazon warehouse, and all the other places like it.
Peel Public Health has learned and acted upon some of the lessons - more targeted vaccine clinics at some of these employers, more hot-spot clinics.
Agree that there needs to be incentives/rewards to being fully vaccinated. Agree that a lot of the rules, particularly those concerning outdoor activities, don't make a lot of sense. The problem isn't the local park ... it's the Amazon warehouse, and all the other places like it.
Peel Public Health has learned and acted upon some of the lessons - more targeted vaccine clinics at some of these employers, more hot-spot clinics.
It’s not lockdown. It’s mockdown. You can do whatever you want without any consequences (Except if you run a small business).
Fully vaccinated person can still transmit the virus and infect non-vaccinated person.
That was a conservative assumption made early on. Real-world evidence that although not impossible, it is a tiny percentage.
At a certain point, you need to start rewarding people for having done the right thing (vaccination).
Agree. I dont think we have reached that point yet. As soon as the opportunity presents itself, the freedumbers will just do as they please and if questioned say they have been vaccinated. Sadly we all need to pretend we arent vaccinated until the vast majority of us are. That also avoids another human rights case clogging up the courts where people argue they are excluded from something and they have not yet had the opportunity to be vaccinated. Once you have offered to 100% of the eligible population (all people 16+) and injected those that want it, loosening restrictions make sense.
pfbmgd
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Let's just forget the charter and have two types of citizens . Force people to have an unproven and only approved under emergency measure vaccine . That sound like a great country .
I see barely anyone blaming the governemt . Yet they are the ones screwing up time after time . Instead people are focusing on fellow citizens .
Remeber this is year two of flatten the curve 14 days .
PM - Drama teacher
DPM - Journalist
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People picked to look after our country picked by geneder not qualifications . Yet JT is still high in the polls . Liberal voters need to start looking in the mirrior as to what the problem is .
I don't know where you are looking then.
I see people blaming everyone, from PM to school janitor. But never themselves.
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Took a little walk around the St Jacobs Farmers market parking lot last week. Looked like there were more cars identifiable as being from Peel than local.
This is ********!
My kids and grandkids haven't been near anyone other than thier own bubble in a long time. My 18month old granddaughter in Hamilton has never been with anyone other than Mom and Dad. The only time i have had with her is on FaceTime.
I am creating a new family bubble.
I'm not going to be held locked up by the people in hotspots like Peel anymore.
Rant off.
This is ********!
My kids and grandkids haven't been near anyone other than thier own bubble in a long time. My 18month old granddaughter in Hamilton has never been with anyone other than Mom and Dad. The only time i have had with her is on FaceTime.
I am creating a new family bubble.
I'm not going to be held locked up by the people in hotspots like Peel anymore.
Rant off.
I personally think it's perfectly fine as long as your bubble is bubble indeed.
pfbmgd
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Really ? Watched the news yesterday . . First 20 minutes are all covid . Not one mention of government failure . Only vaccination shoratges . But no blame on JT and his crew .
What "people" has to do with "the news"?
Of course news won't blame JT. He has been paying them off for his entire tenure and cranked up the payments during the pandemic.
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