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I really don't think i like this Ontario College Of Trades ... I can't see where there will be any benefit.
What is your opinion, say on having all Motorcycle Mechanics "trained" to work by the minimum standards policy that the gobermint has.. ? I feel there are skilled trade people that work their job as an art, a craft.... brilliantly! So when you ask them about an issue with your bike,,, they look at it from a smart sensible approach to a lot of perspectives.. where as some college trained monkees just learn how to replace parts, they don't live the life of motorcycle,, they just have a job,,fix bike, collect pay, mind on other things... oh well,, it meets minimum safety standard...
Other trades are the same.. Electricians fight each other to make the job meet code... the minimum allowable standard by law... when you find a good contractor, mechanic, that goes above and beyond.. they seem to be plagued by cut throat competition to do minimum standards allowed by code..
What does the consumer get?
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by Richard J. Brennan Provincial Politics, Published on Wed Apr 10 2013

Tory Leader Tim Hudak says Ontario doesn’t need a controversial College of Trades that will impose a tax on people working in the trades.

“The last thing we need when there are 600,000 people out of work of work today is some expensive new bureaucracy standing in the way of people who want to work in the skilled trades and good jobs,” Hudak told reporters at Queen’s Park on Wednesday.

The legislature was to debate a private member’s bill calling for the elimination of the fledgling College of Trades.

“It has the ability to levy taxes, $60 on the back of a carpenter, an electrician, a hair stylist and $120 new charge on the backs of businesses,” he said in joining the Stop the Trades Tax campaign. “The last thing we need is a new tax, a new bureaucracy.”
http://timhudakmpp.com/petitions/
 
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I'm kinda confused but apparently OCT is gonna be free and from next year there is a fee.
 
I really don't think i like this Ontario College Of Trades ... I can't see where there will be any benefit.
What is your opinion, say on having all Motorcycle Mechanics "trained" to work by the minimum standards policy that the gobermint has.. ? I feel there are skilled trade people that work their job as an art, a craft.... brilliantly! So when you ask them about an issue with your bike,,, they look at it from a smart sensible approach to a lot of perspectives.. where as some college trained monkees just learn how to replace parts, they don't live the life of motorcycle,, they just have a job,,fix bike, collect pay, mind on other things... oh well,, it meets minimum safety standard...
Other trades are the same.. Electricians fight each other to make the job meet code... the minimum allowable standard by law... when you find a good contractor, mechanic, that goes above and beyond.. they seem to be plagued by cut throat competition to do minimum standards allowed by code..
What does the consumer get?
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by Richard J. Brennan Provincial Politics, Published on Wed Apr 10 2013

Tory Leader Tim Hudak says Ontario doesn’t need a controversial College of Trades that will impose a tax on people working in the trades.

“The last thing we need when there are 600,000 people out of work of work today is some expensive new bureaucracy standing in the way of people who want to work in the skilled trades and good jobs,” Hudak told reporters at Queen’s Park on Wednesday.

The legislature was to debate a private member’s bill calling for the elimination of the fledgling College of Trades.

“It has the ability to levy taxes, $60 on the back of a carpenter, an electrician, a hair stylist and $120 new charge on the backs of businesses,” he said in joining the Stop the Trades Tax campaign. “The last thing we need is a new tax, a new bureaucracy.”
http://timhudakmpp.com/petitions/

I fail to understand how you think college of trades can negativity affect quality of work.
 
I fail to understand how you think college of trades can negativity affect quality of work.
Hmm,, well, I guess I look at a lot of trades as artist... I guess you can teach an art, but usually the artist has a unique flare that sets them aside... good Mechanics can do things in 1hr where the flat rate book says 5... Hair stylists, don't just take an inch off.. Good electricians will take harmonics into consideration, or building loading,, not just code... Plus the fees have increased from $22 yr,, to $120 ... all that aside,the trades person has to be a complete idiot to be called on the carpet by the college.... just judging by other colleges , so I don't see how anyone but those who collect the fees will benefit..
 
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Hmm,, well, I guess I look at a lot of trades as artist... I guess you can teach an art, but usually the artist has a unique flare that sets them aside... good Mechanics can do things in 1hr where the flat rate book says 5... Hair stylists, don't just take an inch off.. Good electricians will take harmonics into consideration, or building loading,, not just code... Plus the fees have increased from $22 yr,, to $120 ... all that aside,the trades person has to be a complete idiot to be called on the carpet by the college.... just judging by other colleges , so I don't see how anyone but those who collect the fees will benefit..

With electrical Code takes harmonics, demand factors,etc into account. There is no "art" to electrical, its all science. Science that no electrician would know if they were not taught.

BTW the college of trades isnt a training institution.
 
With electrical Code takes harmonics, demand factors,etc into account. There is no "art" to electrical, its all science.

I guess you're a residential sparky and haven't worked with conduit. Any ways the Ontario College of Trades is just a cash grab, there is no other reason for it.
 
I guess you're a residential sparky and haven't worked with conduit. Any ways the Ontario College of Trades is just a cash grab, there is no other reason for it.

I do plenty of EMT and PVC.

By the book, that all math as well.
 
With electrical Code takes harmonics, demand factors,etc into account. There is no "art" to electrical, its all science. Science that no electrician would know if they were not taught.

BTW the college of trades isnt a training institution.

Ok,, somehow I was led to believe they were taking over the apprenticeship training programs...
 
Ok,, somehow I was led to believe they were taking over the apprenticeship training programs...

They are taking over the licencing, apprentice registration, regulations, etc.

So far they have increased the costs to renew your licence, and now charge apprentices a fee.
 

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