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Canadian Future Party launches, will field candidates in upcoming byelections​

Party is billing itself as centrist option for 'politically homeless' voters​

Canada's newest federal political party officially launched in Ottawa on Wednesday.

The Canadian Future Party is billing itself as a centrist option for voters unhappy with both the Liberals and Conservatives.

"For too long, Canadians have been asked to play a political shell game," interim leader Dominic Cardy told a press conference in Ottawa.

"Under the shell on the left, the social programs you need. But along with it, too often you have to buy bloated government, ever-increasing spending, divorced from delivering results.

"Under the shell on the right, we're supposed to find fiscal discipline. But along with it, too often there's a mean-spirited approach that blames the most vulnerable for their plight, selfishness masquerading as liberty that happily misdirects government resources to the wealthy, and polices our bodies and our bedrooms."
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We don’t need a fifth party , the libs cons NDP and greens are enough of a problem.
But a few smart guys will become “party leader” and senior advisors and make LOTS of cash doing little for the politically confused .


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I think the Coservative party is actually very close to centre. It just doesn’t seem like it because the current Liberal party has swung so far left, I can’t wait till that circus packs up and leaves town.
 
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The Cons do appear centrist , and then they do crazy stuff and argue about abortion and bounce around gun control . The swing right then drift back , it’s puzzling and I fear Pollivaire will say anything to get the vote . We need JT to move along , but meet the new boss , just like the old boss .


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I don’t think any party ever wants to resolve the abortion and gun control issues. They are wedge issues that political parties pull out of their hat to divide voters.With all the time and money that’s been spent on these two issues nobody has anything to show for it. Think of how much further ahead we would all be if that money( both in Canada and U.S) had been spent on educating people on birth control and mental health. Saying that guns kill people is like saying spoons make people fat, the problem isn’t the guns.
 
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I don’t think any party ever wants to resolve the abortion and gun control issues. They are wedge issues that political parties pull out of their hat to divide voters.With all the time and money that’s been spent on these two issues nobody has anything to show for it. Think of how much further ahead we would all be if that money( both in Canada and U.S) had been spent on educating people on birth control and mental health. Saying that guns kill people is like saying spoons make people fat, the problem isn’t the guns.
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It turns out that guns actually do kill people. While the argument that people using guns kill people is certainly true, easy access to guns and ammo increases homicide and suicide rates by a large percentage (over 40%), mostly because they are very effective killing tools.

Your analogy between spoons and guns is a bit of a stretch - there is zero connection between spoons and being fat, there is a direct connection between guns, homicide and suicide. Your analogy corrected would be something like "Saying that guns kill people is like saying french fries make people fat..."
 
Machete attacks are getting larger because it ‘not a gun crime’ , ban machetes and since they are made from low carbon steel and can be fashioned with a grinder , ban steel sales.
Spoons and French fries makes no one fat , putting too much crap in your mouth makes you fat . Tomato tomatillo.


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If there is no follow through, what is the point. On the face, all the parties seem different, but once they seize control they are very much the same. Spend spend spend, with little changes to benefit everyone, and more taxes.

Who knows maybe they want to change the game for the people.
 
My ex father in law was a Federal MP (Etobicoke North) years ago with “hopes of making a change”. He said when he got to Ottawa he quickly realized he ain’t changing anything and to just grab a spoon and line up at the trough.
 
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Ok fair point but would you agree that mentally healthy, legal gun owners don’t generally commit homicide or suicide?
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Yes, I do generally agree. But there are challenges:
  • Gangsters can have good mental health - do they get guns?
  • Religious, cults, and para-military zealots can have good mental health - what about them?
  • Mental health is a big spectrum. Some have lifelong struggles -- easy to identify. But what about those who occasionally drift into depression? Or alcoholics and other substance abusers who spend most of their lives in a stupor.
I'm not anti-gun, I lived in the US for a long time with my guns handy most of the time.

But I disagree with the statement that guns don't kill people to me it's like saying cigarettes don't kill people.
 
After reading the article... I don't hate this? They can talk the talk, at least. I doubt it will come to much though - I certainly don't think it's going to split the Conservative vote. The unpopularity of Erin O'Toole I think was a demonstration that they are not interested in "compromise"

It's very funny to me that the Liberals' and Conservatives' comments for the article amounted to "The Liberals/Conversatives suck"
 
To re-rail the thread, I think this party is filling a gap left by the old Progressive Conservative party now that they have fully embraced populist talking points (if not actual policy just yet). Socially progressive, fiscally conservative, and not bound by zealous idolatry of the so-called free market as some kind of miraculous panacea (despite overwhelming and relentlessly ongoing evidence to the contrary).

In the same way the NDP has almost entirely abandoned true blue collar people to chase minority social issues, the Conservatives have largely abandoned fiscal responsibility by obsessing over tax cuts and demonising government without any plan for managing the lost revenue. Harper ran deficits like crazy before anyone points at the dumpster fire that the current Liberals are dragging down the street. And in the same way the NDP is being held hostage by over-moral tut-tutters policing language (homeless vs unhoused vs houseless vs unsheltered? WTF?) and demonising anyone not part of a precious minority, the Conservatives are increasingly caught up in the social insanity brewing south of the border and obsessing over social issues that have almost zero bearing on 99.~% of Canadians daily lives.

I actually think this party goes after traditional Liberal voters as much as it does Conservative. Genuinely centrist (in the good way, not the actually populist but pretending to be centrist way), and separating itself from the increasingly fractious political dividing lines drummed into us by agenda-driven and rage farming media, new and traditional.

To me, the hysteria over trans rights, both for and against, is so emblematic of modern politics, I would kill for a party to say, "You know what? We just don't care that much. It's an issue for a vanishingly small minority of people, and we have far more important problems to address, so we're just going to ignore that noise. Let's talk about corporate taxation, public services, housing, the environment, and immigration/birth rate, as these are the actual issues that will define the foreseeable future."
 
Miss the days when differences in politics could be debated without resorting to name calling or labeling.

Policies should be debated on their merits instead of dramatic predictions of failed outcomes.

Government can run deficits to build infrastructure. It makes sense. However, they shouldn’t run deficits to maintain programs.

The evolution of identity politics has made me more cynical towards politics in general. We have exemptions to helmet laws for religious reasons. Helmet laws are for safety. You need to wear a hard hat and protective gear (safety boots/eye protection etc) in construction areas. You can still respect religious traditions and maintain safety standards.

I really see no difference between liberals and the NDP and to a lesser extent the greens. The cons have their own problems keeping their base happy without alienating others.

I get frustrated when so called conservatives spend more than liberals and try to justify it with word salads that please their loyal followers but, don’t address the issue.

We can’t maintain cutting checks when the majority of the taxes service debt interest.

apologies for the post. End rant.
 
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