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need some opinions : how much is 24,000 kms worth ???

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Got the winter itch to get something different for the next riding season. Have been looking into 2 dual purpose bikes. They are same model and both are 2009s. I have not seen them in person yet as they are a 3 hr drive away, but in photos they both look in similar shape. One is a private seller asking 3700 but it has some mods done that I would do myself: exhaust, dynojet, skidplate, handlebars. BUT, it has 30,000 kms on it. Owner says mostly from commuting and very little off-road use. The other is at a dealer asking 4300 and is completely stock with 5500 kms [should i be concerned theres a reason why such low miles on a 2009?] Anyway, I guess my question is which is the best deal?? Thats a whole 24500 less kms for a price difference of 600 bucks plus some extra tax i would have to pay...plus I'm sure I would be doing the same mods as what has already been done on the one with the higher kms.

PS: i think i must have bike OCD, cuz once i set my sights on something i'm like a pitbull to make it happen NOW !!

thanks!
 
Pay extra for the lower milage bike. While 30,000kms isn't outrageous, fact is you'll be at 45k-50k in no time. Then the money you saved will be a distant memory.
 
Wouldn't it depend on the exact bike? It might be a lot of mileage for a 200 cc dual purpose bike, but not much for a 650.

..Tom
 
V-Tom said:
Wouldn't it depend on the exact bike? It might be a lot of mileage for a 200 cc dual purpose bike, but not much for a 650.

..Tom
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If you want to bring a different bike into it based on cc how about a 100,000km Road King Classic? Would one buy back 24,000kms for 600 bones(harley jargon)? We need answers.

Or, would you trade 96,000kms for $2400?
 
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BNKN said:
If you want to bring a different bike into it based on cc how about a 100,000km Road King Classic? Would one buy back 24,000kms for 600 bones(harley jargon)? We need answers.

Or, would you trade 96,000kms for $2400?
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It has to do with how high the engine has to rev to pickup speed and maintain speed, higher cc tends to need less revs.
 
silverbullet132 said:
It has to do with how high the engine has to rev to pickup speed and maintain speed, higher cc tends to need less revs.
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I believe it comes down to cost per km. Varies from bike to bike, I'm sure. Why pay, for example, 75% of full value if bike is 50% used up?
 
BNKN said:
If you want to bring a different bike into it based on cc how about a 100,000km Road King Classic? Would one buy back 24,000kms for 600 bones(harley jargon)? We need answers.

Or, would you trade 96,000kms for $2400?
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I wasn't suggesting to go to a differnt category of bike.. there are 200cc dual sports and bikes like DR650 and KLR's that are considered dual-sports. Some consider adventure bikes like my DL650 V-Strom's dual sports and to some they may be. If that as the case my 2006 has 202,000+ km so 24,000 km would be nothing on them. I suspect 24,000 km on a DR650 or KLR is no big deal.


..Tom
 
V-Tom said:
I wasn't suggesting to go to a differnt category of bike.. there are 200cc dual sports and bikes like DR650 and KLR's that are considered dual-sports. Some consider adventure bikes like my DL650 V-Strom's dual sports and to some they may be. If that as the case my 2006 has 202,000+ km so 24,000 km would be nothing on them. I suspect 24,000 km on a DR650 or KLR is no big deal.


..Tom
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With all due respect I think 24,000kms is a lot especially in light of trading it for $600. That's 1/4 of the life of the vehicle used up for $600. That's $2400. The bike is worth 3 times that brand new. These 2 bikes get pretty loose around 75,000kms. Once you get into buying parts/paying $95 an hour shop labour that $600 will be eaten up quickly. This is assuming it was maintained properly. Get lax on oil changes, ham fisted owners etc......i gotta headache just thinking about it.
I believe OEM replacement parts are 5+ times cost of what the bike is worth B/N if bike was bought over counter part by part. I just don't see an upside to the risk.
 
If the private bike is a kijiji deal just make sure if your driving 3hrs too look at it that the guy selling it has a ownership in his name, and a UVIP to prove there's no lien on the bike. It would be a Hugh piss off to drive 3 hrs based on a picture and then you get some BS story.

Atleast with a dealer your not gonna get screwed around with random stories about important things like ownership etc etc..
 
BNKN said:
With all due respect I think 24,000kms is a lot especially in light of trading it for $600. That's 1/4 of the life of the vehicle used up for $600. That's $2400. The bike is worth 3 times that brand new. These 2 bikes get pretty loose around 75,000kms. Once you get into buying parts/paying $95 an hour shop labour that $600 will be eaten up quickly. This is assuming it was maintained properly. Get lax on oil changes, ham fisted owners etc......i gotta headache just thinking about it.
I believe OEM replacement parts are 5+ times cost of what the bike is worth B/N if bike was bought over counter part by part. I just don't see an upside to the risk.
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We still don't know what the bikes are. Without that information how can anyone even pretend to give meaningful advice? How much value do the accessories add to the equation? Are these things going to be important to the end user? How do we know what the bike is worth brand new?

I've never said that it is or isn't worth the difference in value, just that we don't really have enough information to make a remotely educated guess. A few years go a friend got a pretty good deal on a bike. He really did well price-wise but even better: the owner threw so much stuff in with the deal that he could have sold most of the accessories for what he paid for the bike.

..Tom
 
V-Tom said:
We still don't know what the bikes are. Without that information how can anyone even pretend to give meaningful advice? How much value do the accessories add to the equation? Are these things going to be important to the end user? How do we know what the bike is worth brand new?

I've never said that it is or isn't worth the difference in value, just that we don't really have enough information to make a remotely educated guess. A few years go a friend got a pretty good deal on a bike. He really did well price-wise but even better: the owner threw so much stuff in with the deal that he could have sold most of the accessories for what he paid for the bike.

..Tom
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I can pretend to give meaningful advice because in the envelope containing the Yamaha Serow to fully farkled BMW GS Adventure the math would apply imho. If you buy the high mileage bike, the previous owner put on the 24,000kms, right? For that $600, heck double it in lieu of ebay sourceable add ons, for that $1200 he's rented that bike from you. No difference as I see it. Would you rent a vehicle, no matter what it was, for $1200 for 24,000kms? Now you're that much closer to replacing all the typical wear items plus known weak areas. I'm not seeing it, but maybe I'm out to lunch.

I don't get the prices some people want for used crap, wanting to ride on somebody elses dime.
 
BNKN said:
I can pretend to give meaningful advice because in the envelope containing the Yamaha Serow to fully farkled BMW GS Adventure the math would apply imho. If you buy the high mileage bike, the previous owner put on the 24,000kms, right? For that $600, heck double it in lieu of ebay sourceable add ons, for that $1200 he's rented that bike from you. No difference as I see it. Would you rent a vehicle, no matter what it was, for $1200 for 24,000kms? Now you're that much closer to replacing all the typical wear items plus known weak areas. I'm not seeing it, but maybe I'm out to lunch.

I don't get the prices some people want for used crap, wanting to ride on somebody elses dime.
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All of your value equations depend on your assertion that 100,000 km is the life of the bike. My 2006 DL650 has over 202,000 km. There are some out there with almost 300,000km. On top how much are the farkels worth?

I would probably go with the lower km bike, but I don't see how a definitive conclusion can be made without knowing what the actual bike is.

(By any chance are you the dealer selling the lower km bike?)


..Tom
 
V-Tom said:
All of your value equations depend on your assertion that 100,000 km is the life of the bike. My 2006 DL650 has over 202,000 km. There are some out there with almost 300,000km. On top how much are the farkels worth?

I would probably go with the lower km bike, but I don't see how a definitive conclusion can be made without knowing what the actual bike is.

(By any chance are you the dealer selling the lower km bike?)


..Tom
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I don't know about definitive conclusions. This is simply my judgement call based upon information give, opinion asked. I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this. If some new information comes forward to blow my assessment apart, so be it.
No, I'm not selling the lower km bike but if I were I'd like my chances more if I knew the potential buyer was at least an average wage earner. Only the desperate buy overpriced used junk. That's the only way they get into the game. Please reference "rent-to-own". Poor people always pay more. Kind of ironic.
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