hey i found this screw in my tire yesterday, rode to school and again today. i already have new tires just was waiting to put them on, i planned on having them put on in port rowan by my grandpas neighbour who is the local mechanic, while im there for thanksgiving. its just over a 2 hour trip with half on the 401 half on hwy 59-country road. do you guys think id be ok to make it there? it doesnt seem to be leaking air, and its flush with the tire since its in the groove. thanks
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nail/screw in tire, ok to ride?
- Thread starter smackenz
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PeterTrocewicz
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I would pull it out. Its better to find out now if it is going to leak than on the road when it works its way deeper into tire or it gets spit out. If the tire doesn't leak when you pull it out, don't worry about it. If you do wind up plugging the tire, I always recommend keeping speed and load down.
Plug it yourself.. If you drive by e-dot, shoot me a PM. If you take off the wheel, I can plug it for you here and show you how it's done.. You can also swing by, borrow my kit and do it yourself (you can have one of my plugs, not like they cost anything lol) and bring it back. QEW/427 area. You can also buy a kit at crappy tire or wally's world and do it yourself. Do not ride with the nail in it. You can Swiss-cheese your rim.
I'd be surprised if that tire did not leak once the screw is removed. Street tire carcasses are not very thick.
Do not use the shoe string type of tire plug you can get at Canadian Tire because the centrifugal force generated when the tire is at speed has been know to cause that type of plug to be spit out.
Be kind and don't spit in your bud's face! :lmao: who is riding behind you.
Do not use the shoe string type of tire plug you can get at Canadian Tire because the centrifugal force generated when the tire is at speed has been know to cause that type of plug to be spit out.
Be kind and don't spit in your bud's face! :lmao: who is riding behind you.
vic_himself
Well-known member
Agreed^^^
fyrebug
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Its by victor. $5. Just bought.it and plugged my tire three days ago. Held up fine on the gardiner but Franky I wouldn't trust the Canadian tire.ones. I keep checking it. Tire needed replacing.months ago anyways so.I bought a.new one from Pete.
Stop n go makes a really great mushroom plug kit. No inner patch needed. Ordered that.for the future...
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Stop n go makes a really great mushroom plug kit. No inner patch needed. Ordered that.for the future...
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Here's the link to a kit that would do the trick.. http://www.amazon.com/Slime-1034-A-Tire-Plug-Kit/dp/B000ET525K Make sure you get a T-handle reaming tool as some tires require a bit of force to push the reaming tool all the way in. Also, many kits come with one t-handle tool that does both the reaming and insertion. It's better that way.. Less junk to lug around and less of a loss risk. This is an excellent instruction page http://www.alpharubicon.com/bovstuff/tirepluguzi.htm Just a couple of notes:
1) I don't coat the tool, but I coat the plug with rubber cement (seen a couple of experienced mechanics do it that way and been following their lead)
2) I like to light up the plug once it's been inserted and cut, for a few seconds to vulcanize it. This prevents leaks especially if you won't ride immediately
3) I am not a big fan of those skinny black plugs.. I have some good orange ones and I can give you one or 2
4) Once plugged and vulcanized, test for leaks with soapy water. If still leaking, double-plug, but on a motorcycle, I'd just do it so I can take it to a mechanic to see if a proper repair is possible and to get a replacement tire if not
1) I don't coat the tool, but I coat the plug with rubber cement (seen a couple of experienced mechanics do it that way and been following their lead)
2) I like to light up the plug once it's been inserted and cut, for a few seconds to vulcanize it. This prevents leaks especially if you won't ride immediately
3) I am not a big fan of those skinny black plugs.. I have some good orange ones and I can give you one or 2
4) Once plugged and vulcanized, test for leaks with soapy water. If still leaking, double-plug, but on a motorcycle, I'd just do it so I can take it to a mechanic to see if a proper repair is possible and to get a replacement tire if not
Canadian Tire plain vanilla tire plug kit is fine. I've used it at least a dozen times on bikes and cars with no issue whatsoever.
Stopn'Go is ineffective, unnecessarily complicated and expensive. Cheapest string type plug beats it hands down. This is from direct experience.
A word of advice: If you insist on using Stopn'Go and end up with those mushroom plugs constantly falling in, plug the oversized hole with two string type plugs. One won't be enough to close the over-sized hole made by Stopn'Go.
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That's it. No expensive mumbo-jumbo proprietary plugs necessary.
As for riding with a plugged tire, it's up to you. I've ridden thousands of Km with plugged tires at the style/speed no different than my normal riding. The tire is not going to explode and an ordinary properly installed plug (no rocket science there) is not going to fall out. At worst, it may leak a little.
I've had a bent rusted nail punch a double hole in my tire once, about 2-3mm apart. One plug was enough and it lasted over a thousand Km. Three minutes and under a buck as opposed to about ten with a proprietary plug that needs to be special ordered.
PeterTrocewicz
Active member
During one particularly unlucky streak, I put about 500kms on a back tire with 3 of those Canadian Tire gummy-worm type plugs. I kept it to low speed back and forth to work riding though. I carry one of those kits with me on all trips.
Properly installed, they work fine. I've used those types of plugs for years when I did emergency road service
as a licensed commercial tire tech.
Properly installed, they work fine. I've used those types of plugs for years when I did emergency road service
as a licensed commercial tire tech.
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From today's General Motorcycle Discussion forum, Same Tire.... twice!!!!!!!!
"....Call up the auto-club at about 7AM and wait.........wait..............wait. Finally he arrives at 8:15AM. I ask him if he can plug a tire on the side of the road and he said yes. So we try to pull the finishing nail out of my rear tire but it got pushed in instead. Put the tire plug in and hand the guy a $20 and I go on my way. Happy as a clam that I can continue to ride home.
Then about 20miles later, once I am on the highway I notice that the rear end is starting to sway right and left slightly. I start cursing out loud,while doing about 60 MPH, because I suspect the rear tire to be flat again. Sure enough once I pull of to the shoulder on the right and take a look the tire is FLAT!!!!!! So I limp the bike over to the next exit going only about 10MPH on the shoulder and get off and stop at the gas station. Looked at the tire and notice that the plug is MISSING!....."
So everyone has different experiences. There is no finite answer to whether to use a plug or not, I think.
Reputable shops will not install plugs nor mount tires with plugs. There must be a reason like liability.
I have installed the Stop-&-Go mushroom head plugs in 2 people's rear tires with great success. One I know road a full summer with it in. They cannot fall inside the tire if installed properly and the hole diameter is not too large for the plug (same for any plug). The Iron Butt riders used them for years and where happy with them.
Personally, I would use any plug if it meant getting home and there was no alternative. Then replace the tire for a bike that I would use at highway or higher speeds. I would never use a plug in a bike that might spin the tire (and potentially dislodge the plug) or that would see speed of 100 kph or higher.
There are many factors to be considered by the owner (I am sure others can add more):
- Speed to be run at
- motorcycle tires flex more than car tires in the tread area, so plugs may be more appropriate for car tires, thus Canadian Tire
- diameter of the hole in the tire, will a plug seal or are multiple plugs needed?
- is it going to be reamed properly, a newbie to installing plugs may well ream the hole and cords improperly damaging the plug over time
- is the operator able to install the plug to the proper depth
- type of bike and tires, supersport bikes can hit 300 kph = no plugging; dirt trail bike type dual sport = plug it if not a tube type
- type of tire
- rider confidence in riding worry free with a plug in a tire
"....Call up the auto-club at about 7AM and wait.........wait..............wait. Finally he arrives at 8:15AM. I ask him if he can plug a tire on the side of the road and he said yes. So we try to pull the finishing nail out of my rear tire but it got pushed in instead. Put the tire plug in and hand the guy a $20 and I go on my way. Happy as a clam that I can continue to ride home.
Then about 20miles later, once I am on the highway I notice that the rear end is starting to sway right and left slightly. I start cursing out loud,while doing about 60 MPH, because I suspect the rear tire to be flat again. Sure enough once I pull of to the shoulder on the right and take a look the tire is FLAT!!!!!! So I limp the bike over to the next exit going only about 10MPH on the shoulder and get off and stop at the gas station. Looked at the tire and notice that the plug is MISSING!....."
So everyone has different experiences. There is no finite answer to whether to use a plug or not, I think.
Reputable shops will not install plugs nor mount tires with plugs. There must be a reason like liability.
I have installed the Stop-&-Go mushroom head plugs in 2 people's rear tires with great success. One I know road a full summer with it in. They cannot fall inside the tire if installed properly and the hole diameter is not too large for the plug (same for any plug). The Iron Butt riders used them for years and where happy with them.
Personally, I would use any plug if it meant getting home and there was no alternative. Then replace the tire for a bike that I would use at highway or higher speeds. I would never use a plug in a bike that might spin the tire (and potentially dislodge the plug) or that would see speed of 100 kph or higher.
There are many factors to be considered by the owner (I am sure others can add more):
- Speed to be run at
- motorcycle tires flex more than car tires in the tread area, so plugs may be more appropriate for car tires, thus Canadian Tire
- diameter of the hole in the tire, will a plug seal or are multiple plugs needed?
- is it going to be reamed properly, a newbie to installing plugs may well ream the hole and cords improperly damaging the plug over time
- is the operator able to install the plug to the proper depth
- type of bike and tires, supersport bikes can hit 300 kph = no plugging; dirt trail bike type dual sport = plug it if not a tube type
- type of tire
- rider confidence in riding worry free with a plug in a tire
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Glad to hear everything worked out well. Before you replace the tire I suggest you practice puncturing and plugging it a few times. Puncture, plug, test ride, check pressure. Rinse and repeat with different nail/screw/staple while experimenting with/without glue, with/without reaming, different insertion depth, different plug thickness or double plugging, etc. Then take the tire off and check how the plugs look like from the inside. It's no rocket surgery
but practice makes perfects, takes away all the mystique and eliminates the need to rely on anecdotal evidence about what's best. All it will cost you is some time and a bunch of cheap plugs, but will potentially save you a lot of time and grief on the road (like waiting for CAA to botch the plug job).
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