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Motorcycle painting by viccont

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I recently put out an ad on this forum looking for someone who could paint my motorcycle. I got a few responses from some folks and one from Vic (username: viccont on this forum).

He offered me the lowest price amongst all the others right off the bat. So, we talked over the phone, and decided to meet up so he could show me some of his work. It was very impressive.

He was very pleasant to talk to and honest about what he could or could not do in terms of the paint job. He took a look at the motorcycle personally and gave me his final quote. We agreed on a color (black with metallic pearls) and made the deal.

Removing the parts from the bike was required so I had a friend come over and help me do that. Once the parts were off I let Vic know and gave all 3 (tank, front fender, rear fender) to him.

He made it clear from the get-go on how long he would need and other minor things on the parts to avoid any surprises - a good thing in my opinion!

Once the parts were with him I was really impressed by his constant updates to me over text message.

Here are some of the pics he sent me as part of his updates:

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I required an OEM sticker to be ordered to place on the fender and he even did that for me (for extra of course) and showed me the receipts for his purchase which was added to the agreed amount.

Overall, I am extremely happy I picked Vic to paint my bike. He is a pleasant and honest person to work with and I definitely recommend him to anyone who wants any paint work done.

Here are some before and after pics of my bike:

Before:

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After:

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I'm very happy!
 
Auto paint in an unvented house garage. Then a propane heater in corner of garage.....wow! Solvents venting off curing paint are explosive. Glad I am not his neighbor not to mention if the city and MOE get wind of it there will be SERIOUS charges and fines. Bet the house insurance carrier doesnt know either.
 
^^^who cares, The charges and fines are all just a nanny state thing. As long as hes not dumping crap into the sewer I see no problem.


Good job.

How many coats were used?
Will it stand up to a wet sand polish when needed?

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kneedragger88 said:
Auto paint in an unvented house garage. Then a propane heater in corner of garage.....wow! Solvents venting off curing paint are explosive. Glad I am not his neighbor not to mention if the city and MOE get wind of it there will be SERIOUS charges and fines. Bet the house insurance carrier doesnt know either.
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Lol, let me guess, you either work at a body shop or own one?

If the OP is happy with the price, quality of the job and turn around, what's the problem?
 
Nope I seriously dont care just surprised someone doing this would post pics. You can look me up and see who I amand what I do. But I am very swrious when I point out paint solvents are explosive. Also VERY bad for you if inhaled. Thats why MOE gave been jilling off solvent based paints in favour of water borne for yars and there are serious rules for filtration and enormous fines for this kind of thing.
Again I dont give a crap but only a matter of time until this guys neighbors report him or worse his garage bliws up.

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Haha nope. Wouldnt have done it if it was offered. Last time I say it. I DONT CARE. I would if he was my neighbor but hr isnt. I will shut up now. Yall get him to paint and lets see how long it lasts. Starting MOE fine for solvent release is thousands. I am out.

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Wow. Vic , painting in the garage with a propane heater. Damn man. You have kids that live there too.
I spend tens of thousands to get up to ministry code, and yet this gets posted.
Op glad your happy but, Vic, smarten up bud your gonna have a huge problem on your hands.
You realize the fines are 25k for spraying solvant paint in a non compliant booth right?
 
peterm15 said:
^^^who cares, The charges and fines are all just a nanny state thing. As long as hes not dumping crap into the sewer I see no problem.
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So you do not think a mixture of solvent sprayed into air near an ignition source is not a recipe for an explosion??
 
Nope you are correct. I'm not saying I would do it. Its just none of MY business.

Judging by some of the posts it is some peoples business, they have a right to comment on that. I did look up kneedraggers posts but didn't see anything that indicated he was in the business of painting bikes.

None the less back on the topic at hand for me. The paint suits the bike.


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carboncat said:
Wow. Vic , painting in the garage with a propane heater. Damn man. You have kids that live there too.
I spend tens of thousands to get up to ministry code, and yet this gets posted.
Op glad your happy but, Vic, smarten up bud your gonna have a huge problem on your hands.
You realize the fines are 25k for spraying solvant paint in a non compliant booth right?
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Dj, long time no c, how you've been. Says who I pain in the garage and who said I use solvent paint. My friend rent out designated booth when needed. So everyone is safe specially my kids. For those interested I have a link in my album containing some of my projects, I also straighten rims. Thanks all for your feedback and thoughts.
 
My brother and I once had a contract to build a paint booth to paint tractor trailers. There is a ton of safety stuff involved. Explosion proof lighting, filtration, fresh air intake, fire suppression, we even had to build a separate fire resistant room to store paints, chemicals etc. The fire department sent inspectors twice during the work and again when completed. There was no way we were allowed to commission it without their approval.(this was because we didn't buy/assemble an approved unit, we started with 150 4x10 sheets of 18 gauge steel)


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Brian P said:
So you do not think a mixture of solvent sprayed into air near an ignition source is not a recipe for an explosion??
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I hold valid whimis certificate and follow all requirements to store, handle and dispose of hazardous materials.
 
OK. More time to type now. Disclaimer here, my "real job" involves occupational health and safety; industrial ventilation and explosion prevention is not my specialty but I've had enough involvement with jobs that contained those issues to have an idea of what's involved. (That it isn't my specialty just means that I won't sign off on the protective measures, doesn't mean I don't know what they are, just that I'd rather not touch these jobs with a ten foot pole, too much risk.) And because my engineering license involves a duty to protect the public, I can't let something like this go.

It has to be said right now that nowhere in this thread is it mentioned what type of paint was used. It is possible/conceivable that this job was done using water based paint, or oil-based paint in which the solvent has a flash point high enough that it is not considered to be a flammable liquid. But automotive finishes that will stand up to some abuse all have some bad, nasty, side effects to them.

Old fashioned water based acrylic - Non-flammable (non-combustible!) but takes a long time to dry and durability as an automotive finish is not great. Some of the generic spray-bomb paints are acrylics.

Oil based enamel - this is the old skool automotive paint that they used before base/clear became popular - the oil has a high flash point and is not a flammable liquid but the stuff takes forever to dry and cure. Tremclad is something like this.

If you are spraying either of these out of a spray bomb then the propellant in the spray bomb is probably propane or something similar (flammable!). But if you are using the paint in liquid form through a spray gun powered by compressed air then the propellant is not an issue. BUT ... Oil might not be a "flammable liquid" but if you atomize it in air, the mist will still ignite in the right conditions (like aiming the spray at that propane heater if it is lit!)

For automotive paint, both of these are "yesterday's technology with yesterday's quality". Doesn't mean you can't still use them but they are a pain to use compared to today's technology, and quality and durability won't match base/clear.

The old standard colour coats were solvent based lacquer paint and you can still get solvent-based lacquer paints in spray bombs. The automotive paint aisle at Canadian Tire is paint like this. Duplicolor Paint Shop is a lacquer paint. These paints used on their own are not durable. Expose them to solvent (like gasoline!) and they'll dissolve in the solvent again. They have to be top-coated with a resistant clearcoat (urethane). Flammability is certainly an issue with these. But for automotive paint jobs, these are now obsolete.

The current technology uses water based paint for the colour coat. For a DIYer these are something of a pain to use. And they have to be top-coated with urethane ...

So it comes down to top-coating, and regardless of solvent based lacquer or water-based colour coats, the top coat is a urethane, and that stuff is nasty. It has solvents in it, so flammability is an issue, and airborne isocyanates from the curing process are VERY bad for you.

So basically it amounts to that this job COULD have been done with a non-flammable paint - we don't know - but if that's the case, long term durability won't match base/clear. In any other situation, it would have needed a urethane top-coat to be durable - and that means flammable vapours and potential isocyanate exposure. It's possible that a moon-suit with separate breathing air supply was used ... we don't know. But as far as the flammability is concerned ... in those photos, aside from that obvious propane heater (yes, let's believe that it was switched off during the job), I spy non-explosion-proof lighting fixtures, and that alone is sufficient to say that the environment in which this job was done was not up to code IF that type of paint was used.

Let's just say that it's conceivable that this job was done using water based or non-flammable oil based coatings and leave it at that. All it means is that the job might not be as durable in the long term.

I'll just leave this here with a suggestion to take a look at section 5 of this MSDS ...

http://www.paintdocs.com/docs/webPDF.jsp?SITEID=DUPLI&prodno=026916000743&doctype=MSDS&lang=2
 
viccont said:
Dj, long time no c, how you've been. Says who I pain in the garage and who said I use solvent paint. My friend rent out designated booth when needed. So everyone is safe specially my kids. For those interested I have a link in my album containing some of my projects, I also straighten rims. Thanks all for your feedback and thoughts.
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I have been to your house lol thats your garage.
there is a paint stand with overspray on it, also there is paper on the wall testing your spray pattern!
clearly not a paintbooth.

For those interested I have a link in my album containing some of my projects,
everyone have a look, his pics are all in his garage..... I mean "booth"
 
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Wow. Internet police all up in gtam today. Who cares what other people do? Don't like it then don't do it yourself. Carry on.

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Roomie said:
Wow. Internet police all up in gtam today. Who cares what other people do? Don't like it then don't do it yourself. Carry on.

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HAHAHAHAHA That is the funniest picture I have seen in awhile....

Bike looks awesome, great job to the Painter...
 
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