Michelin 225/75/16 LTX M/S recall

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This is a very common size and a very popular tire.

Michelin is replacing them for free if you qualify including balance and install. No questions asked.

We're talking over $1000 replacement value here for 4 tires.

Check it out and see if you qualify. Mine are from 2011 date, and well worn.

Thanks Michelin for the free set. Try getting this type of service from those cheap no name China tire companies. :lol:
 
Its nice that they're willing to accept responsibility. Unlike BMW
 
yep, just another pos china made tire, most tires are being made off-shore
 
B3JH AKEX this is also the number to watch for, it is the plant number
 
Jayv said:
Specifically, the tires are LTX M/S LT 225/75R16 115/112R LRE, manufactured between January 2010 and June 2012 at the firm's Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, plant.

http://www.tirebusiness.com/article...calls-1-3-million-lt-tires-for-tread-air-loss
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This tire is most common on Ford E series full size vans. We have a fleet, and 2 of them qualified.

I didn't know it, but as the article points out, the LTX M/S series is discontinued, and replaced by the LTX M/S 2's, which is what they put on.

TireRack rates it an improvement over the original.

Thanks Michelin!
 
SunnY S said:
This tire is most common on Ford E series full size vans. We have a fleet, and 2 of them qualified.

I didn't know it, but as the article points out, the LTX M/S series is discontinued, and replaced by the LTX M/S 2's, which is what they put on.

TireRack rates it an improvement over the original.

Thanks Michelin!
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I've had a couple sets of the new M/S2's and A/T2's and the I've found the older LTX M/S to be a better tire overall. They are still a better tire for a light commercial vehicle then anything else out there but not as good as the older versions.
 
Aside from longevity, how does one rate such a tire better than another? I mean, these are being used on vans and other such vehicles... how do you drive a van in a manner which will highlight one tire's superiority over another? I'd never know the difference between tires on my daily driver SUVs. Maybe in snow and wet weather performance... but everyday use? It's all the same to me.

I gotta run out and check the Pathfinder, I may have these on there...

edit: nevermind, 225 only.. mine are 245 or bigger I think
 
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mmmnaked said:
Aside from longevity, how does one rate such a tire better than another? I mean, these are being used on vans and other such vehicles... how do you drive a van in a manner which will highlight one tire's superiority over another? I'd never know the difference between tires on my daily driver SUVs. Maybe in snow and wet weather performance... but everyday use? It's all the same to me.

I gotta run out and check the Pathfinder, I may have these on there...
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LOTS of factors. Noise, handling, ride, feel, longevity, snow and ice traction, and so on.

My one vehicle has over 400,000k on it, and believe me, I can tell the difference when changing tires. After burning out the factory Firestones (lousy tire), went to BFG Long Trail T/A (worst tire I ever owned), then went to LTXs which I loved, then tried the General Grabber HTS which Consumer Reports highly rated. I could tell right away that they weren't as good as the LTXs. They wore out much quicker, and they were lousy in ice and snow. Went back to LTXs and noticed an improvement. We will see how the LTX 2's do now, which I noticed a smoother and quieter ride as soon as I left the tire shop.
 
Tires last me several years... so by the time I'm changing them, they're worn and crappy anyway. I never notice a difference tbh. Handling and ride, in my Pathfinder anyway, is not noticeably or attributed to tires. It's an SUV, it handles the same all the time. I don't Schumacher it. Wet and snow performance is fair, but again, I go years between tires so comparisons are almost impossible. Perhaps if I was testing them back to back..

I guess I don't pay close enough attention..
 
SunnY S said:
Thanks for your input.

On TireRack, based on actual users experience, the M/S 2's are at the top of the heap. From my past experiences, the TireRack surveys are pretty consistent with my findings on tires I use.

Can't wait to form my own opinion on these tires, too.
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They are the best of what's currently offered today. They are a very good tire. But the old LTX was a great tire.

SunnY S said:
LOTS of factors. Noise, handling, ride, feel, longevity, snow and ice traction, and so on.

....We will see how the LTX 2's do now, which I noticed a smoother and quieter ride as soon as I left the tire shop.
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The new M/S2's ride a bit better, are quieter and a little more fuel efficient then the older version at the slight expense of off road and deep snow traction. I also found them to wear a bit quicker. I only got 165k on a set compared to 180-200k for the older LTX's. Big complaint i know :rolleyes:. The stock Continental Vanco's were good for 26k and were turds the whole time.

mmmnaked said:
I guess I don't pay close enough attention..
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Not intending to sound harsh but what you said is probably true. But if you don't do a lot of driving, then you may never appreciate the differences.

Compared to other tires i find the Michelin's to have a better quality ride (quiet and smooth), wear better (both in total km's and wearing evenly) and superior traction both dry and wet.
 
Been driving 160km (each way) to work every day for the last 8 months... couldn't even tell you what kinda tires I have on the car LOL
 
Mine are two yrs old...245/75/16/E though....No dice. Damn.
 
I have a new set of 235/70/16 LTX M/S with 3/4 of their life left if anyone is interested. ;)
 
Torren said:
... I only got 165k on a set compared to 180-200k for the older LTX's. ...
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M/S 2 has an improved tread life over M/S which is one major thing Michelin tries to do with every new generation of the same model. I have also never heard of any LT tire, not specifically designed for the hwy, to last much longer than 120k. 200k is pretty much a miracle. You should've documented that and sent it to the manufacturer.

The older and beat up one's vehicle is btw, the quicker the tires will wear. Uneven wear has more to do with alignment, suspension components, load and pressure then with make of the tire.

With all this said, Michelin LTX line up is the best SUV and truck tire I have ever sold and installed. Same with Michelin Defender for your every day non-performance passenger tire.
Defender recently available in "H" rating in selected sizes. I would recommend it over Primacy MXV4 any day. The only downside would be a bit more noise.
X-Radial LT2 - a virtually unknown equivalent to M/S 2, can be sometimes acquired for a lower price - do not hesitate - they are the same tire.
 
DemonPig said:
M/S 2 has an improved tread life over M/S which is one major thing Michelin tries to do with every new generation of the same model. I have also never heard of any LT tire, not specifically designed for the hwy, to last much longer than 120k. 200k is pretty much a miracle. You should've documented that and sent it to the manufacturer.

The older and beat up one's vehicle is btw, the quicker the tires will wear. Uneven wear has more to do with alignment, suspension components, load and pressure then with make of the tire.

With all this said, Michelin LTX line up is the best SUV and truck tire I have ever sold and installed. Same with Michelin Defender for your every day non-performance passenger tire.
Defender recently available in "H" rating in selected sizes. I would recommend it over Primacy MXV4 any day. The only downside would be a bit more noise.
X-Radial LT2 - a virtually unknown equivalent to M/S 2, can be sometimes acquired for a lower price - do not hesitate - they are the same tire.
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The M/S2 has a tread life warranty of 115k, so if people are only getting 120k they should go in a little earlier and get some prorated warranty on them. If you keep your alignment in spec and check your tire pressures regularly I can't see getting less then 120k on a set, unless it's all city. I know the M/S2 is supposed wear longer then the M/S but that has not been my experience so far and im 50k into set #2 on this van and they are wearing just like the first set although I doubt I will have this van long enough to wear them out.

Even tire wear is for sure mostly dependent on alignment and tire pressures. Working in shops over the years I have found that the michelins would be much more tolerant to low pressures / alignment issues before they would wear drastically. Also once the issue was corrected the michelins would tend to wear back to even, where as the other tires would just keep on with the same wear pattern till they were toast. The cheaper the tire the worse it was. Tire construction and material has a very important role in even wear as well. Has anyone ever seen a set of "Sport King" radials ever wear evenly? on any vehicle?
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