Man, 62, murdered over scooter/car collision.

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Heard this on the radio earlier this afternoon. Hard to believe, what can you even say ?


WATCH: Police say accident between victim and accused led to Koko Chang's murder

Posted By: Justine Lewkowicz justine.lewkowicz@bellmedia.ca · 9/17/2013 2:58:00 PM


Police say an accident is what led to the murder of 62-year-old Anthony Koko Chang.
Chang died after he was stabbed multiple times at his home on Francine Dr, in the area of Leslie St and Steeles Ave E, on Thursday morning.
24-year-old Kimnarine Keshan Maharaj has been charged with second-degree-murder.
Det Kate Beveridge says the two got into an accident on Mount Pleasant Rd, near Roehampton Ave, last Tuesday. Chang had been driving a scooter and Maharaj had been driving a pickup truck. Det Beveridge says Maharaj was at fault and had agreed to pay for damages after the two decided to settle things without insurance involvement.
Det Beveridge alleges that Maharaj showed up at Chang's home on Thursday morning. She says the victim and accused got into a violent altercation, that neighbours heard Chang screaming for help.
Police are asking any other witnesses to contact them or Crime Stoppers.
 
RIP, and no, he didnt get killed over the scooter/car collision, he got murdered cuz the 24 year old punk is a psycho.
 
2 mistakes there:
Settling it privately even tho its not his fault
Leading a retard to your home
 
RIP. I hope that 24 year old gets a long *** time in jail and whatever's coming to him in the rear.
 
stiletto said:
RIP. I hope that 24 year old gets a long *** time in jail and whatever's coming to him in the rear.
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Meh; In Canada ? Not likely. He'll plead insanity and be out in two years. Even if he does have a legitimate mental illness, he'll stop taking his meds once he's out and there's nobody that'll check on that; then in three years when he commits another crime, there'll be a huge backlash that more legislation is needed to help mentally disturbed individuals.

In other words; Par for the course in the Canadian "legal" system.
 
Craneopbru said:
Meh; In Canada ? Not likely. He'll plead insanity and be out in two years. Even if he does have a legitimate mental illness, he'll stop taking his meds once he's out and there's nobody that'll check on that; then in three years when he commits another crime, there'll be a huge backlash that more legislation is needed to help mentally disturbed individuals.

In other words; Par for the course in the Canadian "legal" system.
Even without the insanity plead, this guy will be out in less than 5 years with parole. Canada has the BEST legal system in the world for murderers!! A woman killed her own 4 year old daughter, purposely drown her in the bath tub because she is autistic got only 5 years but were out with 2.5 years served, 2 for 1 deal. Countless drug dealers gunning down each other claims self defense and get off with probation..no jail time.

This is the legal system we have here, so this dude with a 2nd degree charge will probably bargain down to manslaughter, with no prior and was seriously sorry and have a bright future..all those BS...probably get a 3 to 5 years sentence..perhaps less, and with parole could see freedom possibly in 18 months.
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RR929 said:
......could see freedom possibly in 18 months.
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I think you might even be optimistic there - like you said, with the 2 for 1 deals and probably 2 years before an actual trial means he'll probably walk out of court on the day of sentencing on parole.
 
Craneopbru said:
I think you might even be optimistic there - like you said, with the 2 for 1 deals and probably 2 years before an actual trial means he'll probably walk out of court on the day of sentencing on parole.
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You are absolutely right!!
 
RockerGuy said:
2 mistakes there:
Settling it privately even tho its not his fault
Leading a retard to your home
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He was a peaceful buddhist. Sometimes being too nice to your fellow man can get you killed, people are that messed up
 
RR929 said:
You are absolutely right!!
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Although I understand Craneopbru's original opinion, the "absolutely right" part is stretching it. The government in 2010 removed the 2 for 1 time spent in jail before trial credit. It is was called the Truth in Sentencing Act (Bill C-25). So he sort of right but really wrong.
 
The victim was stabbed several times...did the accused brought his own knife? Or grab from the victim's kitchen?

Would the public ever know this or another publication ban to protect the accused??

That's why the US is a lot better in fair full disclosure...you can freakin find out the brand of solvent used to clean the knife on a murder case.
 
RR929 said:
That's why the US is a lot better in fair full disclosure...you can freakin find out the brand of solvent used to clean the knife on a murder case.
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LOLZ - then whenever you see someone buy that brand of solvent you can report it as suspicious! ;)
 
Craneopbru said:
Meh; In Canada ? Not likely. He'll plead insanity and be out in two years. Even if he does have a legitimate mental illness, he'll stop taking his meds once he's out and there's nobody that'll check on that; then in three years when he commits another crime, there'll be a huge backlash that more legislation is needed to help mentally disturbed individuals.

In other words; Par for the course in the Canadian "legal" system.
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Cool story, bro.

There is an oft-cited perceived lack of crime punishment in Canada, which is complete bs. The US has the highest prison population and they somehow still have a much bigger crime problem on average than us.
How often does the scenario that you're predicting actually happen? Are you saying this based on some facts or just your personal feelings?

Anyway, rip to the victim - definitely a tragedy.
Hope the guy is put away for a long time. At this point he's obviously not fit to participate in a society.

(there is no way he will be convicted of anything less than 2nd degree murder as some are saying)
 
RetroGrouch said:
He was a peaceful buddhist. Sometimes being too nice to your fellow man can get you killed, people are that messed up
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No doubt about that. Peaceful & dumb is 2 different things lol
llaen said:
Cool story, bro.

How often does the scenario that you're predicting actually happen? Are y as some are saying)
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Karla Homolka
Greyhound bus beheader
Luca Magnotta

For those people I don't think justice was rightly served
 
RockerGuy said:
No doubt about that. Peaceful & dumb is 2 different things lol

Karla Homolka
Greyhound bus beheader
Luca Magnotta

For those people I don't think justice was rightly served
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Did they reoffend? That's what Craneopbru was alluding to.
I have no doubt that there are criminals who get away with less than what we think they deserve. Some probably get more (especially drug-related offenses, in my view). Happens everywhere. My point is it's not the regular occurrence that we perceive it to be.

In the end it comes down to ideology anyway. I may like to see a life in prison sentence in one case where you want the person to be hanged. That doesn't even matter - the important thing is that no one else suffers because of them again. AFAIK, the murderers you listed have not reoffended.
And yes, reoffending does happen, but again, I don't see it as such a common thing that we can predict it with the certainty exhibited in the posted I quoted. That is all!
 
RR929 said:
Consumer Report will probably add a category of the penetrating power on humans for kitchen knives ranking...;)

Here is the verdict of that women's sentence in case someone thinks I am BSing. I guess she luck out just before the Truth Sentence legislature kick in within the same year.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/po...-drowning-child-pleads-guilty-to-manslaughter
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Why do I bother. The woman committed the act in 2004. 2010 - 6 years (it is in the story, first line) Simple law concept is that the law applies that was in force when you committed the act not when you are convicted. Yep that means people who committed crimes back 30 years ago are judged by those laws. (There is an exception for the death penalty in Canada since those sentences were commuted at the time).

As for the rest, read the story again. Try a little mental game. Pretend you believe the exact opposite of what you do. See if you can read the story another way. Trust me it is all there.
 
llaen said:
........And yes, reoffending does happen, but again, I don't see it as such a common thing that we can predict it with the certainty exhibited in the posted I quoted. That is all!
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From a 2010 article from the Winnipeg Sun:


lThe most recent data from the last three months of 2007 shows 75% of adult inmates released from provincial jails were charged with another offence within two years of completing their sentence.
The numbers include charges for new offences and for breaching conditions of release.

It's an astonishingly high number and it confirms what many of us have observed anecdotally for years - our courts/corrections system has evolved into a revolving door of justice where criminals re-offend over and over again.

The 75% recidivism rate for the last quarter of 2007 is the highest in at least five years, according to the data. Which means the problem is getting worse, not better.

The recidivism rates for young offenders during the same period are even more staggering.

In the three-month period from April to June 2006, 100% of young offenders released from youth custody were charged with another offence within two years.

That means every young offender in Manitoba who completed a youth jail sentence between April 1 and June 30 that year was charged with another offence within the following two years.

That's an incredible statistic and a glaring example of what a massive failure our justice system is.

What's equally startling is not once has the recidivism rate for young offenders in custody dropped below 75% since 2002.

Most quarters it ranged between 80%-95%. It's a horrible record.






How about this one from 2004 in the Vancouver sun:






The number of repeat offenders in Canada is nearly four times as high as the official figure issued by the federal government, a Vancouver Sun investigation reveals.

The federal Correctional Service of Canada, which operates 54 prisons nationwide, proudly claims that the rate for criminals incarcerated in its institutions is only 10 per cent.

CREDIT: Ward Perrin, Vancouver Sun Files
Corrections Canada says it don't have the right to keep track of inmates once they leave places like Matsqui Prison and finish probation.
While the figure seems impressive, it excludes some important criteria:
- The 10 per cent refers only to the number of convicted criminals who return to a federal prison within two years of being
released into society.
- It does not include people who return to a provincial jail within two years of leaving federal custody.
- It also does not include people who return to any prison after being back in society for three years or longer.
If the number of convicted criminals who return to a federal or a provincial jail within two years of leaving federal custody is included, the rate of recidivism -- repetition of criminal behaviour -- increases nearly four-fold to 37 per cent, according to Corrections Canada.
In some provincial prisons, 50 per cent of inmates are repeat offenders.
Provincial prison terms are given to people sentenced to less than two years in jail. Federal prisons are for people serving sentences greater than two years.
Assessing which criminals are likely to commit multiple crimes, and whether prisons successfully rehabilitate people, is becoming increasingly important as courts divert a growing number of people away from jails and give them conditional sentences to be served in communities. It's also becoming a bigger issue as the provinces and Ottawa struggle to decide how many taxpayer-funded prisons to operate.
However, defining repeat offenders and calculating recidivism rates among convicted criminals is a murky subject, and one where there is little co-ordination or co-operation between provincial and federal branches of the justice system.
Critics say recidivism statistics are deliberately manipulated by the justice system to play down the seriousness of crime in Canadian society, to justify giving convicted criminals early release from jail, and make it appear that prisons are able to successfully reform hardened criminals.




Obviously, I'm cherry picking the first couple of results from google, but they are valid numbers regardless. It's a pain in the *** to look for this sort of stuff on a phone, so I'm not going to bother trying anymore.

But you get the point ? My example was a tongue in cheek exaggeration, but not an unrealistic one. Repeat offenders make up a larger percentage of our prison populations than most people care to admit. It's a tough problem with no simple answer that will take a long time to fix. Sadly no political party wants to touch this hot potato; just like anything else that will take longer than three years to show any results. Gotta have something to brag about from the next election campaign.

A quick story that happened not to long ago in the GTA; I forget the details, but a man who had repeatedly beaten his girlfriend and had a restraining order to stay away from her ends up murdering her.
 
llaen said:
AFAIK, the murderers you listed have not reoffended.
And yes, reoffending does happen, but again, I don't see it as such a common thing that we can predict it with the certainty exhibited in the posted I quoted. That is all!
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Yeh like Homolka, why would she reoffend? She's in another country with a new identity. We wouldn't even know if she did. Plus she has a degree compliments of the government

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