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Latest SCAM (Sump and Back Flow Inspection)

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We received this call yesterday, maybe let older family members know about this one and a heads up to everyone. Caller says they are with the city and they have a "contractor" doing inspections in your area of sump pumps and back flow valves, they need access to your home and want to schedule an appointment. They know your name and address (really not hard to find out). In our case the city IS doing sewer work in the area but they sent out a letter that stated they will NOT need access to any homes, which had me second guessing for a split second.

Telltale immediate signs:
Corrupt or invalid call display (either number or name). In this case 12 digit number/a number not valid in NA.
Long distance ring tone yet they are from the City of Toronto (not everyone still has this feature).
LD ring tone and local number, not in this case but in others.

Normally when I see the above I just answer and hang-up without saying anything but lately I have been politely messing with them. If they are offshore, less politely.

In my case I pointed out to the benchod on the phone that the city said they will not need access. I think this actually threw him off as he had no idea the city was actually doing sewer work in the area??? Then pointed out his caller ID was invalid.... he gave up.

The angle IMO, guy comes into your home and starts to point out all the "not to code" items and you need to pay up for them to fix or they will shut off water, heat etc., likely really bad rental contracts as well. They are no longer permitted to do door to door sales so they call and set an appointment.... We have had similar ones for free energy inspections, furnace inspection, etc.

My advice to give to your older family members. If they get a call like this tell the caller you are busy but you will call them back at the number displayed on your phone, then hang up. If by some chance it is legit the call display will not be spoofed.


An additional note on how scammers are doing things these days. They tend to call during business hours as they want to target retired people not working people, just a higher percentage mark (WFH must be messing with them these days). Many may have noticed scam calls on weekends and at night are all but gone for this reason.
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Another interesting thing outside of this scam. We always got a laugh out of the English mistakes in email or phishing scams, turns out it is on purpose as they want to target stupid people and it is a way of filtering out smarter people that will just take up their time with no payoff.
 
We always got a laugh out of the English mistakes in email or phishing scams, turns out it is on purpose as they want to target stupid people and it is a way of filtering out smarter people that will just take up their time with no payoff.
Wow, I wondered why after all these years scammers never clued in to fix their English, but I guess that makes absurd sense.
 
I had a call from “reliance” that it’s time to inspect all thier equipment on my property , except I don’t have any of their equipment on my property ….


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I had a call from “reliance” that it’s time to inspect all thier equipment on my property , except I don’t have any of their equipment on my property ….


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And they don't inspect/do preventative maintenance. They wait for you to call in the failure. Vultures.
 
I kept my contract with reliance for my water heater only . Glad I did as they needed to replace it twice already. And come service it many times
 
It's best to not engage with this scam calls. As much as it's fun to toy with them. There is a chance your number will be kept in rotation as an active number. Otherwise there is a chance it will be taken off the list if it's not answered.

I've basically stopped answering my phone all together unless it's a contact in my list. Any randoms can leave a message.
 
Yup! Listened to GTAM and bought out my hot water tank. Not cheap...but no monthly fees.
Water heater is the only thing I'd never purchase outright. It is not a if they fail it is a when.
I had my rental unit replaced when our hot water started to run out, a replacement was installed within two days at zero cost to me (excluding the rental)
 
When I moved into this house thier was a reliance water heater , buy out was $800 for a 12 yr old heater , but I have that money back and now every month is mine . They were very pitch ready , but what if you have no hot water ?? Oh darn it will be like camping for a few days .


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Anyone know how call center auto dialers work? Is it better to ignore the call and let it go to voicemail, or to pick up and hang up immediately?
 
Water heater is the only thing I'd never purchase outright. It is not a if they fail it is a when.
I had my rental unit replaced when our hot water started to run out, a replacement was installed within two days at zero cost to me (excluding the rental)
My buyout on a 12 yo heater is over $1000 and they want $40 a month rental in perpetuity. No way in hell does renting make economic sense. I could have a service call every two years and be way ahead if I owned (and surprise surprise, water heaters rarely need fixed, they are normally either working or garbage).
 
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Water heater is the only thing I'd never purchase outright. It is not a if they fail it is a when.
I had my rental unit replaced when our hot water started to run out, a replacement was installed within two days at zero cost to me (excluding the rental)
My buyout was $20. So I bought it out and put in a brand new one instead.

But originally they offered one for $65 and magically dropped to $16 once I told them I’m buying it.
 
I’ve resorted to an old aerosol air horn , it’s used as a signal device to start races and will pretty much blow out hearing for a day or more . Open back door , hold phone against horn and rip it for 30 seconds . They hang up. I have no measure of how loud it is on the other end but I feel better.


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I’ve resorted to an old aerosol air horn , it’s used as a signal device to start races and will pretty much blow out hearing for a day or more . Open back door , hold phone against horn and rip it for 30 seconds . They hang up. I have no measure of how loud it is on the other end but I feel better.


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An old school headphone cup over the mic and a 1 KHz tone should have a similar effect for them and less annoying for you (and your neighbours).
 
Yup! Listened to GTAM and bought out my hot water tank. Not cheap...but no monthly fees.

Why would you buy out your water tank? You could get a new one for the same or not much more and you're starting the warranty/calcification clock on it at zero.
 
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My buyout on a 12 yo heater is over $1000 and they want $40 a month rental in perpetuity. No way in hell does renting make economic sense. I could have a service call every two years and be way ahead if I owned (and surprise surprise, water heaters rarely need fixed, they are normally either working or garbage).
Got rid of the rental storage water heater and put in an on-demand unit.
It saves gas, as the burner fires only when the hot water is turned on. The thing is that you never run out of hot water and people end up taking longer showers and the water consumption goes up!
This heater is a space-saver and I don't have to worry about a flooded basement due to a broken (storage) water heater.
What if it breaks?
I have a service contract for that risk.

Be aware that the unit purchase price is more.
 
Why would you buy out your water tank? You could get a new one for the same or not much more and you're starting the calcification clock on it at zero.
You have to stop the vig. You cant get out of the contract any other way. Rental on our tank has been $6000 with no end in sight. Technically there is one other out where you can tell them to take away a failed tank and not replace it. They are the sole arbiters of whether it is beyond repair though. Tell them you are out and they will throw everything at the repair to keep the racket going.

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They used to have a pay $20 and return the tank option. They removed that option from all contracts more than a decade ago.
 
I’ve resorted to an old aerosol air horn , it’s used as a signal device to start races and will pretty much blow out hearing for a day or more . Open back door , hold phone against horn and rip it for 30 seconds . They hang up. I have no measure of how loud it is on the other end but I feel better.


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I had a call a few years ago from "Jimmy's Duct Cleaning". Told the guy to get a life.
He called me back 3 times screaming profanities at me.
Cheap entertainment.
 

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