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Scarborough-Agincourt MP Jim Karygiannis seems to be planning, to resurrect his bill requiring speed limiters in all vehicles. All this over the supposed racing incident this past weekend, near Kennedy and Finch. Seems that he wants to "stop the carnage on our streets." I have to ask, "What carnage?"
 
so....he wants limiters holding max speed to 150kph

and yet the crash in Scarborough was likely around that speed....150 in a 60 zone won't look pretty if a lamp post is involved

so his bill would have accomplished what in the scenario of this latest crash?

SFA is what it would accomplish
 
It also couldn't be retroactive, so there would be a land office business done on 10 year old Civics.
 
Oh dear .... here we go again. One has to love the political scene and will of local MPs ... anything to protect the citizens of our province.
 
Oh dear .... here we go again. One has to love the political scene and will of local MPs ... anything to protect the citizens of our province.

this guy is Federal....so his bill panders to the daft from coast-to-coast
 
Rather than contacting the guy with the dumb idea I would recommend contacting your own MP, letting him know what a stupid idea you think that this is, so that the bill can be quashed the moment the motion is made.
 
Rather than contacting the guy with the dumb idea I would recommend contacting your own MP, letting him know what a stupid idea you think that this is, so that the bill can be quashed the moment the motion is made.

True, both is likely a good option.
 
Heard it on the radio this morning, I couldn't help but chuckle a little...
People get into accidents and die doing the speed limit and/or slightly over/under.
In no way is this a solution.
 
True, both is likely a good option.

Well trying to convince Karygiannis that he's wrong would be like trying to convince David Koresh that he wasn't The Messiah. Better to have him rise in Parliament, present his stupid idea, then get slapped down like a red-headed stepchild. It makes for good theatre and would convince others that such craven crap isn't worth pulling.
 
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so....he wants limiters holding max speed to 150kph

and yet the crash in Scarborough was likely around that speed....150 in a 60 zone won't look pretty if a lamp post is involved

so his bill would have accomplished what in the scenario of this latest crash?

SFA is what it would accomplish

I guess if the limit is 150 km/hr, the cops could still charge the pulpy remains of the driver with stunt racing.
 
IMO, this is the stupidest idea ever. First off, it doesn't stop people from doing 130 km/h in a 60 km/h zone (Global pointed this out). Second, the type of people that race their cars, do modifications to them. Removing the limiter is not hard.

Personally, I think all of the issues we experience on the road can be resolved by extensive driver training. Driving is a privilege, not a right. We need to look to places like Finland for ideas on how to train drivers to deal with the machines they are controlling. Expensive? Probably, but it'll be cheaper than incurring more preventable deaths and injuries. You gotta pay to play.

I've seriously given thought to actually actively advocating this. Anyone want to form a lobby group? LOL
 
The people who are going to speed will find a way around the limiter anyways. They're only going to limit the people who don't speed anyways
 
I watch this YouTube channel called Fast Lane Daily. They're big proponents of driver training. Here's a segment about winter driving schools. Take note of the woman they speak to. She's a normal person who drives for the sake of getting from point A to point B. You don't have to be into driving to enjoy and learn from these schools.

[video=youtube;upKqGBk9ESw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upKqGBk9ESw[/video]

Personally, I'm considering doing one of the schools this winter, along with my girlfriend. I know BMW and Mercedes runs them, but not sure of which to go with.
 
That's some sorta turboidea.. I'm definitely writing my MP.. He's gonna be a happy camper considering that he's a con running a formerly fiberal stronghold.
 
What, people are speeding in Ontario? Common, around 30%-40% of everybody I pass outside of the 400 series are either going at the speed limit, or much slower. Unless they are in a 50km/h zone, they still go at 80km/h....I never understood Ontario drivers on that one :confused1:
 
From the article.
"We have to stop this bloodbath!”

Oh my...
The liberal party is the one in red. They're the bloody idiots.
 
Well trying to convince Karygiannis that he's wrong would be like trying to convince David Koresh that he wasn't The Messiah. Better to have him rise in Parliament, present his stupid idea, then get slapped down like a red-headed stepchild. It makes for good theatre and would convince others that such craven crap isn't worth pulling.

I wish that scenario would happen. But unfortunately there are a bunch of politicians with the sane mind set as karygiannis. Remember the street racing law? It failed when Frank Kless presented it as a private members bill. Donna Cansfield re introduced after the Manchester incident IIRC and it was supported by most politicians, even though the details regarding Manchester and the alleged street racers were lies supported by both the media and police.


karygiannis is just another globe trotting politician who seems to be more concerned with helping foreign countries rather than Canada, at least that's the opinion I get from reading his website http://karygiannismp.com/spip/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=2


Just a little history on Jim. Jim Karygannis, is the Liberal MP that went crazy at PIA a few years ago. Seems he was upset because airport security was questioning two men from the middle east. In the story below it turns out they both had prior convictions. Seems Ol Jimmy boy is more concerned about being a control freak over Canadians and their vehicles, rather than be concerned about foreign drug dealers.


July 21, 2002
Grit MP in rage, flyers claim


By STEPHANIE RUBEC -- Ottawa Bureau

Toronto Sun


OTTAWA -- A Liberal MP blew his top at Pearson Airport early this month, berating customs agents for their lengthy questioning of two Middle Eastern men, airport sources have told Sun Media.

Scarborough-Agincourt MP Jim Karygiannis reportedly tore a strip off the officers July 1 in front of airport staff and passengers disembarking an Olympic flight from Greece.

ACCUSATIONS

Witnesses say Karygiannis accused customs agents of "racial profiling" for questioning the Middle Eastern men, who were brandishing U.S. passports, more extensively than other people.

"He started yelling at the officers," said a source. "He was belligerent... He's using words like racial profiling." Customs referred the two men to the immigration office because they felt the duo weren't clear as to their place of residence or why they were in Canada, an airport source said.

A background check found a rap sheet for both men, which included convictions for drug possession. Karygiannis refused to return phone calls, but his office confirmed an incident had occurred at the airport.


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